Marine Wharf (Hampton Inn and Homewood Suites) | 660 Summer St | Seaport

[JSic]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

Wow, this is way at the far edge of the developing Seaport.

 

[CSTH]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

^agreed. But the design center (the old army base) is a bit of a place in itself (especially given the ongoing renovation), and if this can contribute to filling in Summer St. between the BCEC and the reserve channel, then maybe soon it won't feel so far away ...

 

[BeeLine]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

Parcel A

Standing at the yellow star looking W along Summer Str

Standing on Summer Street looking E

Standing on the corner of Drydock and Harbor Streets looking S ish

Mod: the offical name of this project is Marine Wharf and the address is 660 Summer Str./parcel A

 

[quinninin]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

I wonder if the roof decks on this will be open to the public, since it is a hotel and not a residential.

I imagine based on the render it will be used as event space similar to Cambridge Hyatt.

 

[Czervik.Construction]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

That has to be the nicest looking Hampton Inn / Homewood Suites I have ever seen.

Boston needs rooms at that price point.

 

[odurandina]

Re: Harbinger Development, 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

Marine Wharf approved by the BPDA Board!

marine whare pnf 1 by rob quinn, on Flickr

marine whare pnf 2 by rob quinn, on Flickr

marine whare pnf 3 by rob quinn, on Flickr

 

[cca]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

Wow ... this thing has a triple personality disorder. Someone should give it some therapy before it gets stuck like this.

cca

 

[JumboBuc]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

Updated render from the Globe:

So bright. Such color.

This project is called "Marine Wharf", so any chance we can update this thread title to something like:
Marine Wharf (Hampton Inn and Homewood Suites) | 660 Summer St | Seaport

 

[dshoost88]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

Is 3,500 square feet really enough retail space for a bistro, cafe, and a brewery?

 

[Bergeron37]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

Well the bistro/cafe are probably going to be part of the Hampton/Homewood lobby as that is a Hilton requirement these days. My guess is the 3,500 SF is all for the brewery.

I would caution though that I highly doubt this gets built in this cycle. The construction costs will be through the roof for a design like this and RevPAR in the Boston market is down from last year. Construction lending is drying up and this developer, while they have the track record, does not have the equity on hand to move forward without a substantial financial partner.

Also for those who are confused, RevPAR = Revenue per Available Room. It's basically just the hotel's occupancy X average daily rate.

 

[JeffDowntown]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

^ OK, but Boston RevPAR is still astronomical per national averages. We had multiple days this summer / fall with zero room availability in a 50 mile radius!

 

[BosDevelop]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

Well the bistro/cafe are probably going to be part of the Hampton/Homewood lobby as that is a Hilton requirement these days. My guess is the 3,500 SF is all for the brewery.

I would caution though that I highly doubt this gets built in this cycle. The construction costs will be through the roof for a design like this and RevPAR in the Boston market is down from last year. Construction lending is drying up and this developer, while they have the track record, does not have the equity on hand to move forward without a substantial financial partner.

Also for those who are confused, RevPAR = Revenue per Available Room. It's basically just the hotel's occupancy X average daily rate.

I'll take the bet. This is getting built.

 

[BeeLine]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

Don't get your hopes up too high, but a Geo/soil rig has been working the site this past week. I also noticed some new markings and warning flags around the site.

https://flic.kr/p/21ry1uR

https://flic.kr/p/21rxNLF

 

[datadyne007]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

This project is called "Marine Wharf", so any chance we can update this thread title to something like:
Marine Wharf (Hampton Inn and Homewood Suites) | 660 Summer St | Seaport

Bump this rename request.

 

[odurandina]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

This project is called "Marine Wharf", so any chance we can update this thread title to something like:
Marine Wharf (Hampton Inn and Homewood Suites) | 660 Summer St | Seaport

mods: please change to JB's suggestion.

 

[stick n move]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

Heres an angle I've never seen before that includes both proposals.

 

[stick n move]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

This one has been posted but heres a bigger and better quality render.

 

[datadyne007]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

There are few things more sexy on a building than an exposed stair. They are so expensive though because you need fire-rated glass curtain wall assemblies.

 

[stick n move]

Re: Harbinger Development - 411 rm hotel | Summer Street | Seaport

Anyone know when either of these towers are going up?

 

[CBCArch61]

There are few things more sexy on a building than an exposed stair. They are so expensive though because you need fire-rated glass curtain wall assemblies.

I agree entirely! I worked on the new Johnson and Wales building and we ended up using rated curtain wall in A LOT of places. The stairs came out awesome!

If i remember correctly though, technically you only need curtain rated glass if it is within 15'-0" of another glazing system (curtain wall/window, etc.), which in all reality is always the case, otherwise you end up with a dreaded blank wall (ie Province street which is a party wall, i know).