Marriott Moxy Hotel | 240 Tremont Street (Parcel P-7A) | Theater District

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Hmm, taller and boxier than what was previously proposed:

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Though I wished they would have kept the bottom three/four floors for neon, rather than the corners.

Adam -- We're talking LED video signs -- no Neon here -- move along

I'm guessing an example is a giant scrolling ad for the new Suffolk Downs Casino and Racebook
 
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I like the taller, but really wish they could have kept the wavy shape.
 
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Frankly I'm just grateful this is still alive. The Times Square in a would-be wavy box was always sort of a fantasy for this site.

It would have come out like shit compared to the renders anyway.

At least this design seems relatively honest about the mediocrity we can expect.
 
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this is kinda a give and take... less interesting design, but much taller creating more density... The new design isn't horrible, but damn did I like the old one.
 
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Looks like the Millennium Ritzes' baby wandered away from mum and dad on Avery Street.
 
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Woah.... hold the phone on our "mediocre Lever House" analogies here.

I just delved into the whole long PDF (http://www.bostonredevelopmentautho...ects/PipeDocs/Parcel P-7a/Parcel P-7a_NPC.pdf ) about the project and found some really neat stuff.

Number 1 is that the alley between it and the Wilbur will get a make over a-la a narrow Schubert Alley in NYC complete with "interactive poster displays" and upgraded lighting and paving. I really dig this idea.

Secondly the facade looks like it will be really interesting. In the images posted it looks flat, but according to the elevations and oblique views starting on page 60 of the PDF each side is actually heavily textured. The Tremont side appears to almost be two separate even skinnier buildings, while the Stewart Street side has kind of "fins" projecting from its face breaking up the large expanse of glass. But, the side facing the Wilbur has to be my favorite. The windows are recessed and bumped out from the facade at what appears to be random intervals. a really interesting texture that, combined with the color scheme, almost reminds me of improvised Jazz.
 
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Looks like the Millennium Ritzes' baby wandered away from mum and dad on Avery Street.

Lurk - you've got to read what they are proposing -- for instance:
Façade Design, Fenestration, and Building Materials:
On Stuart and Tremont Streets, the exterior of the proposed building will be broken into three vertical divisions.

Level 1 will have a very transparent glass band allowing maximum visibility of the restaurant space from the street. This street front façade will have operable glass panels
along the entire length of the restaurant to further enliven the street experience.

Levels 2 through 4 are proposed to be a mixture of glazing and sign panels using a combination of electronic and static signage.

Levels 5 through 19 will have a thin aluminum curtain wall framework with large
expanses of glass, metal panel and spandrel panel all glazed within the same curtain wall framing....

Facing the Wilbur Theatre, the façade will be predominantly metal panel, again with randomized pattern of color and projections. Although included within a more solid façade, these materials
will speak the same architectural language as the Tremont Street façade, but represent it in a
different way.
Colors for the façade as proposed are shades of blue and metal. Glazing will be only slightly
reflective, in order to maintain a high percentage of natural light allowed to the interior, while
taking advantage of the energy savings afforded by the latest glazing technologies. Lighting and signage will be colorful and animated and will integrate with the building form and concept.

Urban Design Component

Exterior Lighting Program and Lighting Animation
The exterior lighting will be a vital component of the overall design concept...

The primary lighting type used will be linear strips of Light Emitting Diode (“LED”) fixtures. To integrate with the building architecture, specific horizontal and vertical architectural features will be outlined with the LED fixtures. The LED fixtures will be programmed to produce a variety ofcolors and effects to further reinforce the building’s role as a gateway to the Theatre District....

The electronic video board, the first of its kind in Boston, will serve as a major attraction to theater goers, hotel guests, and city visitors alike, both during the day and evening hours. Also, the sleek architecture of this mainly glass building, rising above the bustling street, will feature lighting and signage accents that will distinguish the building within the city....

The objective of the proposed lighting scheme is to imitate the lights and movement of a theatre premiere to excite Theatre District attendees and captivate passersby. In a tribute to theatre days of old, before the dawn of movies and television, this lighting scheme has
been developed to alert the City that this location is a destination. The building and lights will draw attention directly before the start of the theatre productions, responding to the heart of the entertainment district and in celebration of the people enjoying the area....

Open Space and Landscaped Areas
The NPC building extends over the current property line1 into the existing sidewalk on the north and west edge, where improvements will be limited in order to provide the widest possible clear width for pedestrians. The restaurant windows at Level 1 may be operable, in order to facilitate interaction between the interior and exterior at street level.

A 12’-0” access easement will be
maintained along the south edge of the Project Site in the form of an alley. This alley, which also serves as access to the nightclub inside the Wilbur Theatre, is proposed to be designed with decorative paving, high levels of light and interactive theatre poster display cases to encourage pedestrian activity. The hotel will have a common roof deck that may also have limited food and beverage services. Access to the roof deck will be through an extension of the south portion of the building to allow for elevator and stair access, as well as other support functions for the use and enjoyment of the roof space....

Pedestrian Circulation
New sidewalks, curbing, and lighting are proposed along the street. The building lighting,
combined with the signage and restaurant component, will serve to engage the pedestrian and enliven the property, signaling an arrival to Boston’s Theatre District. The Project’s lighting program, together with the new restaurant use, will revitalize the corner and enhance the pedestrian experience. Proposed lighting will also help to illuminate the sidewalk enhancing security and public safety in this area....

Guests will access the building from the Stuart Street entrance and lobby, which will also provide access to the restaurant and retail areas. Emergency egress from the building will be provided to the alley along the south side of the building....

The proposed curb extension along Stuart Street will be constructed to accommodate the footprint of the new building without compromising sidewalk width along Stuart Street. In addition, the extension will provide improved access to pedestrians walking adjacent to the Project Site, increase the pedestrian waiting area at the intersection of Stuart Street/Tremont Street, and help accommodate both passing pedestrians and ground-level activity at the new building....

An existing curb cut on Stuart Street accessing the Wilbur Theatre loading zone will remain, and is proposed to be shared by the Project and the Wilbur Theatre.
 
Re: Theater District Parcel P-7A

Woah.... hold the phone on our "mediocre Lever House" analogies here.

I just delved into the whole long PDF (http://www.bostonredevelopmentautho...ects/PipeDocs/Parcel P-7a/Parcel P-7a_NPC.pdf ) about the project and found some really neat stuff.

Number 1 is that the alley between it and the Wilbur will get a make over a-la a narrow Schubert Alley in NYC complete with "interactive poster displays" and upgraded lighting and paving. I really dig this idea.

Secondly the facade looks like it will be really interesting. In the images posted it looks flat, but according to the elevations and oblique views starting on page 60 of the PDF each side is actually heavily textured. The Tremont side appears to almost be two separate even skinnier buildings, while the Stewart Street side has kind of "fins" projecting from its face breaking up the large expanse of glass. But, the side facing the Wilbur has to be my favorite. The windows are recessed and bumped out from the facade at what appears to be random intervals. a really interesting texture that, combined with the color scheme, almost reminds me of improvised Jazz.

Great PDF, excellent find.

After going through there were a few highlights:
-no parking whatsoever
-double the retail space from the previous proposal
-shares a loading dock with the theatre behind it
-change from residential to "moderately-priced" hotel

The ground floor experience for this one looks promising, especially considering its small footprint. (We'll have to see what goes in here, though, if it's nothing but banks and cell phone stores it won't do too much..., this area could use some more vitality).

How much larger is Hayward place's footprint? I think these two projects have a similar retail size on the ground floor. This project looks like it will have a much better pedestrian experience.
 
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I know everyone is excited. But I fear this will become yet another disappointing entry on the "what was proposed and what was built" thread.
 
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^ Maybe so, but can hold off on the wet blankets until the whole thing collapses? I get that we've been burned many times before, but the constant pessimism here gets tedious. As it stands, this project looks promising, and there's nothing wrong with hoping for the best.
 
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^ Maybe so, but can hold off on the wet blankets until the whole thing collapses? I get that we've been burned many times before, but the constant pessimism here gets tedious. As it stands, this project looks promising, and there's nothing wrong with hoping for the best.

Bravo! Encore! sustained clapping sounds!!
 
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Great PDF, excellent find.

After going through there were a few highlights:
-no parking whatsoever
-double the retail space from the previous proposal
-shares a loading dock with the theatre behind it
-change from residential to "moderately-priced" hotel

The ground floor experience for this one looks promising, especially considering its small footprint. (We'll have to see what goes in here, though, if it's nothing but banks and cell phone stores it won't do too much..., this area could use some more vitality).

How much larger is Hayward place's footprint? I think these two projects have a similar retail size on the ground floor. This project looks like it will have a much better pedestrian experience.

If you read their document -- its supposed to be a restaurant with an opening to the sidewalk
 
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Page 1-7 proposes retail on the entire first three floors. What could they have in mind?
 
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Page 1-7 proposes retail on the entire first three floors. What could they have in mind?

Shep -- " Level 1 will have a very transparent glass band allowing maximum visibility of the restaurant space from the street. This street front façade will have operable glass panels
along the entire length of the restaurant to further enliven the street experience. "
 
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oook and on floors 2 and 3?
 
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I still don't like the shape of the building, but considering all the lighting, glass effects, and street level impact, I'm going to go with who cares, baby! This could be awesome.
 
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See what moving the 7-Eleven down the street has done to the block??
 
Re: Theater District Parcel P-7A

Is that the Jacob Wirth place-holder in that rendering? It looks incredibly taller than what is being proposed.
 

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