Radian (Dainty Dot) | 120 Kingston Street | Chinatown

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datadyne007 said:
The contrast between this and the Hotel de Lafayette/Hyatt is just incredible.
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That damn Hyatt ranks right up there as one of the ugliest buildings in downtown Boston. Sure do love how 120 Kingston is shaping up.
 
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atlantaden said:
http://www.bostonredevelopmentautho...sed-120-kingston-street-project-in-chinatown/

I'm really looking forward to how the "blank wall" facing the Chinatown park comes out. According to the article, the blank wall isn't going to be so blank after all but has all the possibilities of being quite fun!
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We've known about the LED waterfall for a while. It doesn't change the fact that it is just prettying up a blank wall. That cafe the website mentions is on the corner. There is no retail or restaurant that actually opens up to the park. It is horribly unfortunate. Yes, a fountain is better than a completely blank wall, but it comes nowhere near the level of pedestrian engagement that retail would have brought to that park parcel.
 
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Data, are you telling me that a LED waterfall wouldn't engage the pedestrian experience? Granted, I haven't been to the Chinatown park in a few years now but would a restaurant/retail even be visible from the walkway? I remember the boulders/waterfall/bamboo, red scaffling all set as a background to this particular portion of the park. I guess, here, too, only time will tell.
 
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atlantaden said:
Data, are you telling me that a LED waterfall wouldn't engage the pedestrian experience?
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"Ooh, look honey a waterfall. How pretty. Let's watch it for a few minutes and keep walking back to our hotel."

"Ooh honey, look a great restaurant with outdoor seating. Let's bring our 2 kids over to eat for an hour or two and enjoy the atmosphere."
 
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Data, I'm not familiar with what's behind the Chinatown parcel water feature, maybe you are, but it seems like, if there were even enough room for a restaurant, it would border on the butt-end of the water feature! I agree that retail/al fresco dining would be a huge plus at the base of any building, including this building, I'm just focusing on what was once a broken mess of a brick wall that once framed the Chinatown parcel to now something that seems to be quite the improvement!
 
Re: 120 Kingston, 29 Story Tower in Chinatown

atlantaden><denatlanta........ what the what?
 
Re: 120 Kingston, 29 Story Tower in Chinatown

i walked by it today its really turning out nice.
 
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datadyne007 said:
"Ooh, look honey a waterfall. How pretty. Let's watch it for a few minutes and keep walking back to our hotel."

"Ooh honey, look a great restaurant with outdoor seating. Let's bring our 2 kids over to eat for an hour or two and enjoy the atmosphere."
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Gee, I didn't know Boston had no other restaurants anywhere within its confines.

Is one waterfall too much?
 
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You all know better than to go chasing waterfalls.
 
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There are plenty of opportunities for retail and restaurants in the building just behind the park, which is in serious need of upgrading. Now that the new building is coming, perhaps the owners will reinvent these storefronts into something more attractive.
 
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Meh, you could easily get a sanitized floor to ceiling glass space that sits empty for a year with a massive "prime retail / restaurant lease opportunity" sign on it. The "prime retail" in my building sat empty for 5 years. I like the idea of an LED wall. Maybe it could end up like the LED lighting on the spires of the Bank of America and Conde Naste towers. The ever changing colors are always interesting to look at.


datadyne007 said:
"Ooh, look honey a waterfall. How pretty. Let's watch it for a few minutes and keep walking back to our hotel."

"Ooh honey, look a great restaurant with outdoor seating. Let's bring our 2 kids over to eat for an hour or two and enjoy the atmosphere."
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Re: 120 Kingston, 29 Story Tower in Chinatown

I walked by this last week and there are tall bushes that block out a lot of the view of where the blank wall is going to be. It was actually a really nice area and I was blown away by how nice this entire development is turning out after hearing the complaints. I didn't see anything here to complain about. Positive gain for the city and area especially how the colors tastefully echo state street but in a very different yet complimentary design. It is also a plus since it is not just an ordinary precast box going up in this highly visible area. As we see with every development going up in Boston it is usually best to hold your negative comments until it is finished because so many people are always backtracking once the projects wrap up. Were also just lucky to have these projects going up especially when compared to every other city close by, worcester, manchester, providence, when is the last time you saw even a 15 story building go up there, probably a while ago.
 
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stick n move said:
Were also just lucky to have these projects going up especially when compared to every other city close by, worcester, manchester, providence, when is the last time you saw even a 15 story building go up there, probably a while ago.
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No offense but this statement is just silly. Boston is the epicenter of the 6th biggest metro in the country, these are all just tiny accessory cities that probably don't even rank in the top 100 (other than Providence which is maybe around 50). Most cities of comparable size to Boston (Atlanta, Miami, SF) have far more taller projects going up, as do some smaller ones.

That said I do like this development in spite of the fact that it came at the expense of the Dainty Dot.
 
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pixelsand8 said:
No offense but this statement is just silly. Boston is the epicenter of the 6th biggest metro in the country, these are all just tiny accessory cities that probably don't even rank in the top 100 (other than Providence which is maybe around 50). Most cities of comparable size to Boston (Atlanta, Miami, SF) have far more taller projects going up, as do some smaller ones.

That said I do like this development in spite of the fact that it came at the expense of the Dainty Dot.
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Obviously Providence, Manchester and Worcester wouldn't rank anywhere in the CSA lists since they are all a part of the Boston-Worcester-Providence Combined Statistical Area. They help make us #6 on that list at nearly 8M population.
 
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pixelsand8 said:
No offense but this statement is just silly. Boston is the epicenter of the 6th biggest metro in the country, these are all just tiny accessory cities that probably don't even rank in the top 100 (other than Providence which is maybe around 50). Most cities of comparable size to Boston (Atlanta, Miami, SF) have far more taller projects going up, as do some smaller ones.

That said I do like this development in spite of the fact that it came at the expense of the Dainty Dot.
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I wasnt saying it in context to other cities around the country I was saying atleast we have these developments going up because if boston was stagnated wed really be screwed because all we have is these other small cities that reallly arent doing anything.
 
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Stick has a point. However, I still think it's exciting that Chinatown is getting all these 20 story towers. This area will soon be one of the densest places in Boston.
 
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BussesAin'tTrains said:
Obviously Providence, Manchester and Worcester wouldn't rank anywhere in the CSA lists since they are all a part of the Boston-Worcester-Providence Combined Statistical Area. They help make us #6 on that list at nearly 8M population.
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This is pedantic, I'm sure you knew what I meant though that's why I used the term "epicenter" to describe Boston - in case somebody made your argument. Even if you nix all those satellite cities Boston ranks 10th with 4.5 million. Providence ranks 39th, Worcester 59th, and Manchester I don't think is even in the top 100.

Don't get me wrong I have no complaints about the pace of development in Boston of late but saying we're doing better than these cities would be like the Red Sox congratulating themselves for beating up on the Lowell Spinners in an exhibition game.
 
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