Seaport Neighborhood - Infill and Discussion

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In response to Itchy's thoughtful (and comical) comment, what if the communal housing was nothing more than studio apartments? Screw communal space, just build a complex of apartments approximately the size (and all the functionality) of a Dwelling-Shed. Seems like it would work to me.
 
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HenryAlan said:
So that's what is called a high-rise now? We are really defining down our expectations. No doubt the next 14 story "high-rise" built in the Seaport will cast a shadow on the RKG, or maybe even the Common.
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Isnt a high rise anything that requires an elevator?
 
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jass said:
Isnt a high rise anything that requires an elevator?
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I don't know, I thought mid-rise was where elevators came in, and that low-rise was no elevator.
 
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No elevator = a walk-up. Different categorization.
 
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Elevators should not be used to categorize buildings anymore since many buildings require elevators to make it handicap accessible, even when they are only 3-4 stories high.
 
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Can you not still build like a 2-4 story condo or apartment complex?
 
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today
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^ Corporate doublespeak
 
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Southie apartment building for sale
By Thomas Grillo
Thursday, July 29, 2010


Park Lane Seaport, a 465-unit high-rise apartment building on South Boston?s waterfront is for sale.

Owned by a joint venture between the Fallon Co. and Cornerstone Real Estate Advisers, the four-year-old complex offers harbor or city views.

Located in the Seaport neighborhood, Park Lane was one of the first buildings constructed in the emerging area. The property features more than 18,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space including LTK, Salvatore?s and J. Pace & Sons. The property is on a nearly two-acre parcel and contains 13- and 21-story towers above garage parking. The unit mix includes 35 studio apartments, 221 one-bedrooms, 205 two-bedrooms and four, three-bedroom, two-bath apartments.

Community amenities include 24-hour concierge, rooftop terraces and a sports club with cardio and free weights, community lounge with flat screen TV, kitchen and island bar, business center, conference room, complimentary wireless internet in the common areas, dry cleaning, valet service and access to the MBTA Silver Line.

Apartments offer fully equipped kitchens with black on black GE appliances, granite countertops, maple cabinets, custom lighting and ceramic tile flooring. Other unit amenities include washer and dryers in each unit, floor-to-ceiling windows, wall-to-wall carpeting, painted accent walls, 10-foot ceilings in the penthouse and central air conditioning.

Cushman & Wakefield, the global real estate comapny, is marketing the property.


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Where is the Citizens Bank branch shown in that last photo?
 
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Ron Newman said:
Where is the Citizens Bank branch shown in that last photo?
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It's just a horrible Silver Line headhouse.

I remember the last time a picture of it was shown, some of us thought it was the base of One Marina.
 
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Mike said:
Southie apartment building for sale
By Thomas Grillo
Thursday, July 29, 2010


Park Lane Seaport, a 465-unit high-rise apartment building on South Boston?s waterfront is for sale.

Owned by a joint venture between the Fallon Co. and Cornerstone Real Estate Advisers, the four-year-old complex offers harbor or city views.

Located in the Seaport neighborhood, Park Lane was one of the first buildings constructed in the emerging area. The property features more than 18,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space including LTK, Salvatore?s and J. Pace & Sons. The property is on a nearly two-acre parcel and contains 13- and 21-story towers above garage parking. The unit mix includes 35 studio apartments, 221 one-bedrooms, 205 two-bedrooms and four, three-bedroom, two-bath apartments.

Community amenities include 24-hour concierge, rooftop terraces and a sports club with cardio and free weights, community lounge with flat screen TV, kitchen and island bar, business center, conference room, complimentary wireless internet in the common areas, dry cleaning, valet service and access to the MBTA Silver Line.

Apartments offer fully equipped kitchens with black on black GE appliances, granite countertops, maple cabinets, custom lighting and ceramic tile flooring. Other unit amenities include washer and dryers in each unit, floor-to-ceiling windows, wall-to-wall carpeting, painted accent walls, 10-foot ceilings in the penthouse and central air conditioning.

Cushman & Wakefield, the global real estate comapny, is marketing the property.


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Maybe this board can buy it and tear it down and start over.
 
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^ I'm sad to say that despite its general hideousness, it's probably the most successfully urban part of the Seaport built so far. Residential units above restaurants and delis and a block threaded by small streets which, while treated as service alleys, could be transformed into something more interesting over time.

You can't say any of this about the World Trade Center buildings, which I'd much rather see torn down. They're so separated from one another and interact so hesitantly with the street that they come off as Corbusian towers in the park with neither the height nor the sharpness. A stub Radiant City in PoMo masquerade.
 
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Totally agree with czsz, I've been holding out on this the whole time. Especially with Liberty Wharf bringing some human-scaled architecture into the mix.
 
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Park Lane and the WTC buildings are equally atrocious. I don't know what's going on behind those dead walls, but I assume it's a lot of utilities, fire egress and parking garage in both cases. This stuff is easier to fix at design time, but problematic and expensive after it's been built. I wouldn't hold my breath for a vibrant transformation any time soon.
 
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czsz said:
Residential units above restaurants and delis and a block threaded by small streets which, while treated as service alleys, could be transformed into something more interesting over time.
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Does this ever actually happen?
 
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Yes. Look at, say, mews developments in London. Once, they were the 19th century equivalent of garages on driveways; today they're tony townhouses on narrow streets.

I believe Melbourne has led a successful effort to revitalize its alleys with cafes as well.

If you paved the interior streets more invitingly for pedestrians (maybe make them woonerfs, like Palmer St. in Harvard Square), punched out little stores and restaurants or added cafe carts that could move in and out of the garages, and painted murals or interesting graffiti on the blank walls that remained, it could start to resemble an interesting place.
 
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CZ, you got the right attitude. I agree--if it doesn't work, make it work.

The only thing missing is the awareness and the will.
 
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