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Re: South Boston Seaport
Giving 72 Million dollars in taxpayers money to Vertex is not the basic economic model. It's the job of the Developer (Fallon) to persuade these companies to move to the Innovation district not the taxpayers of this state.
I understand they are trying to jump start the Seaport district by giving Vertex some tax breaks. All the politicans are doing is making a developer richer because Fallon did not have good marketing plan when he bought Fan Pier. Possibly overpaying for this development parcel. This is not the taxpayers problems or issue's.
Creating Jobs is for the private sector to determine not our politcans. Right now the city & state officials are deteremining where the taxpayers money is being spent and making sure certain developers and corporations get a free ride which make these people rich without ever working hard for it.
Just remember that.
Giving 72 Million dollars in taxpayers money to Vertex is not the basic economic model. It's the job of the Developer (Fallon) to persuade these companies to move to the Innovation district not the taxpayers of this state.
I understand they are trying to jump start the Seaport district by giving Vertex some tax breaks. All the politicans are doing is making a developer richer because Fallon did not have good marketing plan when he bought Fan Pier. Possibly overpaying for this development parcel. This is not the taxpayers problems or issue's.
Creating Jobs is for the private sector to determine not our politcans. Right now the city & state officials are deteremining where the taxpayers money is being spent and making sure certain developers and corporations get a free ride which make these people rich without ever working hard for it.
Just remember that.
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Re: South Boston Seaport
this morningIs there a so boston dev. thread or was it combined with this one?
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That's what happens when almost everyone working in the planning department is a political hack only interested in being promoted elsewhere.
That's what happens when almost everyone working in the planning department is a political hack only interested in being promoted elsewhere.
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^^^^^ 307 Dorchester Ave.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...fnZichyslg8qFy_J1ylUuQ&cbp=12,233.96,,0,-1.53
^^^^^ 307 Dorchester Ave.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...fnZichyslg8qFy_J1ylUuQ&cbp=12,233.96,,0,-1.53
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No one answered my question on wether this is also the South Boston Development thread? thats why I've been posting these here,I can't seem to find that thread? Old Colony replacement buildings?>
No one answered my question on wether this is also the South Boston Development thread? thats why I've been posting these here,I can't seem to find that thread? Old Colony replacement buildings?>
Re: South Boston Seaport
We have this thread
http://www.archboston.org/community/showthread.php?t=1315&page=7
We have this thread
http://www.archboston.org/community/showthread.php?t=1315&page=7
Re: South Boston Seaport
Here are some images of the new 76-story Gehry tower in NYC, with 900+ residential units. From Wikipedia:
The tower contains a neighborhood hospital and a public elementary school.
Meanwhile back in Boston...
Last month a representative of the BRA confirmed that the agency has determined that no civic uses will be planned or built ancillary to commercial development anywhere on the 1000 acre Waterfront. At full build in 25-50 years the BRA sees no need for a public school, library, police or fire station ? not even a community center.
Here are some images of the new 76-story Gehry tower in NYC, with 900+ residential units. From Wikipedia:
The tower contains a neighborhood hospital and a public elementary school.
Meanwhile back in Boston...
Last month a representative of the BRA confirmed that the agency has determined that no civic uses will be planned or built ancillary to commercial development anywhere on the 1000 acre Waterfront. At full build in 25-50 years the BRA sees no need for a public school, library, police or fire station ? not even a community center.
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Actually no, there's no need for a public school and library when the city can't even afford to pay for the current system and is already closing schools and libraries.Here are some images of the new 76-story Gehry tower in NYC, with 900+ residential units. From Wikipedia:
The tower contains a neighborhood hospital and a public elementary school.
Meanwhile back in Boston...
Last month a representative of the BRA confirmed that the agency has determined that no civic uses will be planned or built ancillary to commercial development anywhere on the 1000 acre Waterfront. At full build in 25-50 years the BRA sees no need for a public school, library, police or fire station ? not even a community center.
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Never been a fan of Gehry, but this is a masterpiece. Certainly his best work. The materials, at last, make sense in their context.
Never been a fan of Gehry, but this is a masterpiece. Certainly his best work. The materials, at last, make sense in their context.
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Disagree.
A) Even if you don't think the Seaport will ever need a school or library there are other civic uses that should be planned well in advance if 10,000 residents will be living in the district.
B) IMO, it's shortsighted to use current budget issues to extrapolate data on demand for schools 25-50 years from now when the City may have recovered and may have 20-30 thousand more residents.
Bostonians are constantly reminded why we can't have it all ? great architecture, programming, civic space, mix of uses. We get a Boloco tent, a Strega, a lobby with public restrooms, one CVS per block and 3 dead streetwalls and then we need to be reminded why that was the best the BRA could do.
Disagree.
A) Even if you don't think the Seaport will ever need a school or library there are other civic uses that should be planned well in advance if 10,000 residents will be living in the district.
B) IMO, it's shortsighted to use current budget issues to extrapolate data on demand for schools 25-50 years from now when the City may have recovered and may have 20-30 thousand more residents.
Bostonians are constantly reminded why we can't have it all ? great architecture, programming, civic space, mix of uses. We get a Boloco tent, a Strega, a lobby with public restrooms, one CVS per block and 3 dead streetwalls and then we need to be reminded why that was the best the BRA could do.
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Don't understand what this has to do with this thread
Don't understand what this has to do with this thread
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I agree w/ Sicilian, no civic funtctions just screams don't live here. We're not a real neighborhood. Hopefully down the road they change their minds and find space for some civic functions. Maybe just build on one of the unneeded open spaces. Also once again NYC builds another true sky scrapper. And here in Boston we've gone 40 years and not even come close to trying to top 60 stories. So Christmas Tree Shopper small time.
I agree w/ Sicilian, no civic funtctions just screams don't live here. We're not a real neighborhood. Hopefully down the road they change their minds and find space for some civic functions. Maybe just build on one of the unneeded open spaces. Also once again NYC builds another true sky scrapper. And here in Boston we've gone 40 years and not even come close to trying to top 60 stories. So Christmas Tree Shopper small time.
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Co-sign
Also: Here is the Southie thread:
MacAllen II and all things South Boston
Never been a fan of Gehry, but this is a masterpiece. Certainly his best work. The materials, at last, make sense in their context.
Co-sign
Also: Here is the Southie thread:
MacAllen II and all things South Boston
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Not go go further off topic (perhaps time for a move), but I saw the Beekman tower in person last weekend and it is beautiful (minus the dead flat wall, which from what I understand was a cost issue?). Pictures don't do it justice. I think the apartments are rent controlled and relatively cheap for what you get.
Not go go further off topic (perhaps time for a move), but I saw the Beekman tower in person last weekend and it is beautiful (minus the dead flat wall, which from what I understand was a cost issue?). Pictures don't do it justice. I think the apartments are rent controlled and relatively cheap for what you get.
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Disagree
A) I do believe that the Seaport will need a school or library, but not now, not when nothing is being built yet and not when there isn't enough demand for it. So far, the Seaport is still speculation.
B) It's not shortsighted. There is a limited amount of money available now and spending funding on new schools and library to this area means taking money away from other areas. It is actually shortsighted to think that way because with many school/library closures (and probably more if a new school and library is built), it only means that neighborhoods that already do have residents will lose their schools and libraries. In other words, this is merely moving one school/library from one location to another, by underserving one location just to serve another.
When the economy goes back to the upswing, that's when you do it.
Disagree
A) I do believe that the Seaport will need a school or library, but not now, not when nothing is being built yet and not when there isn't enough demand for it. So far, the Seaport is still speculation.
B) It's not shortsighted. There is a limited amount of money available now and spending funding on new schools and library to this area means taking money away from other areas. It is actually shortsighted to think that way because with many school/library closures (and probably more if a new school and library is built), it only means that neighborhoods that already do have residents will lose their schools and libraries. In other words, this is merely moving one school/library from one location to another, by underserving one location just to serve another.
When the economy goes back to the upswing, that's when you do it.