Seaport Square (Formerly McCourt Seaport Parcels)

I've been out of the loop on Seaport Square progress, so can anyone tell me what this Boston Herald article is referring to when it mentions Berkshire Group? Is this Parcels B and C?

Land in hand, Berkshire Group sets course for One Seaport Square
By Donna Goodison, Boston Herald

Construction is slated to start in April on One Seaport Square, a $600 million pair of 22-story towers with 832 apartments above 260,000 square feet of retail space in South Boston’s Seaport District.

Boston’s Berkshire Group, a multifamily-housing investor and manager, spent $72 million to buy three acres along Seaport Boulevard from Seaport Square master developers Boston Global Investors and Morgan Stanley.

The luxury apartment project will include some smaller, less expensive “innovation” apartments that share common areas.
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One Seaport definitely refers to Parcels B and C. From what I've seen of the area recently, the construction and site prep has not started, and One Seaport does not yet have a PNF or renders publicly available (or on the BRA website). Someone on a previous page mentioned that he had access to the PNF but had decided to hold off sharing details until the plan is officially public.
 
Will Parcels B and C be able to break the plateau created by Fan Pier? A quick look at the MassPort height restrictions map makes it appear as though B & C could hit 274', while Fan Pier and the rest of the Seaport Square area remain at 250'... but it may be that even B & C fall in the 250 band.
 
I recall the renderings being pretty awesome and not boxy like the adjacent buildings. They are more in line with 22 Liberty Sq. So I think the design and the extra few feet will break the plateau.

Regarding the start date of next month, how is this possible? Those are still active lots. Are commuters going to just show up one day next month and see that the lots are suddenly closed? Or maybe notices already went out? (I haven't walked over there in a few weeks.)
 
Tim; not sure what the actual height will be, but both are 22 story buildings for a total of 832 units. Retail in the bottom couple of floors will give additional height, but it looks like it could come in at around the 250 mark.
 
Regarding the start date of next month, how is this possible? Those are still active lots. Are commuters going to just show up one day next month and see that the lots are suddenly closed? Or maybe notices already went out? (I haven't walked over there in a few weeks.)[/QUOTE]

They give the regulars about a months notice (that's what they did at parcels L1&2, K and the Goodwin Procter parcels) then they just fence it off on a given weekend and start site prep the following week.
 
type001 said:
I recall the renderings being pretty awesome and not boxy like the adjacent buildings. They are more in line with 22 Liberty Sq. So I think the design and the extra few feet will break the plateau.

Regarding the start date of next month, how is this possible? Those are still active lots. Are commuters going to just show up one day next month and see that the lots are suddenly closed? Or maybe notices already went out? (I haven't walked over there in a few weeks.)
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Just see if you can buy a monthly parking pass for august and you'll probably get your answer.
 
Not sure if I even still have the pnf 'draft' that I had.

But three levels of retail with one including a movie theatre would be a solid 60' podium I would think give or take. Then 190' of residential at 10' per. 250' plus some mechanicals probably. Maybe 265 or so. Just a guess. Not much as far as breaking the plateau as gently angling up.
 
Envoy Hotel:

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Watermark Seaport:

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And the new park:

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Developers eye fall start for Seaport park, pavilion
Wednesday, July 2, 2014
By: Donna Goodison


Seaport Square’s master developers are seeking city approval for an earlier construction start of Seaport Square Green, a 1-acre park that would be anchored by a new food pavilion.

MS Boston Seaport LLC, a partnership of Boston Global Investors and Morgan Stanley, wants to start the $10 million project in September on South Boston’s waterfront.

The tree-lined public area — a mix of green space and promenades, with plantings and seating — would include the Massachusetts Iraq and Afghanistan Fallen Heroes Memorial, a 50-foot obelisk honoring Bay State servicemen and women killed since Sept. 11, 2001.

“It’s 50 percent green space and 50 percent hardscape because it will be a thoroughfare connecting Seaport Boulevard to Northern Avenue and the waterfront,” said John B. Hynes III, BGI’s CEO. “And east-west, there are pedestrian walkways through the park connecting the food pavilion … and District Hall.

The developers are considering two or three concepts for the food pavilion, including a full-service restaurant on one end and multiple food vendors on the other with a common area seating, according to Hynes. An approximately 3,000-square-foot interactive Fallen Heroes Memorial room also is planned for inside the food pavilion.

Seaport Square is an estimated $3.5 billion, 23-acre, 6.5-million-square-foot, mixed-use development.

MS Boston Seaport also wants to start construction in September on an adjacent 300-room Yotel hotel and the new Our Lady of Good Voyage Chapel, which is being relocated to Seaport Boulevard and Boston Wharf Road. It filed plans last week to add a new four-story office/retail building next to the chapel.
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http://bostonherald.com/business/re...pers_eye_fall_start_for_seaport_park_pavilion
 
Remind me please of the rationale of placing a veterans' memorial inside a food court.
 
stellarfun said:
Remind me please of the rationale of placing a veterans' memorial inside a food court.
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That people will actually go in? Also, remember that there's going to be an obelisk out on the plaza, so it's not like this is the most visible part of the memorial...
 
Equilibria said:
That people will actually go in? Also, remember that there's going to be an obelisk out on the plaza, so it's not like this is the most visible part of the memorial...
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equilibria,

http://nypost.com/2014/05/18/outrage-over-911-museum-gift-shops-crass-souvenirs/

Perhaps Hynes needs the hot dog concession and coffee kiosk to help pay for maintaining the one acre park. It took decades, but the National Park Service ultimately rid Gettysburg of the often crass commercialism. IMO, a memorial to the fallen should not be a vittles venue.
 
stellarfun said:
equilibria,

http://nypost.com/2014/05/18/outrage-over-911-museum-gift-shops-crass-souvenirs/

Perhaps Hynes needs the hot dog concession and coffee kiosk to help pay for maintaining the one acre park. It took decades, but the National Park Service ultimately rid Gettysburg of the often crass commercialism. IMO, a memorial to the fallen should not be a vittles venue.
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Including a gift shop selling 9/11 souvenirs is not the same as including a memorial room and information center about an adjacent monument in a building which happens to also have food vendors. The article didn't even say what the design would be - I also pictured a little pocket room like an arcade off of a food court, but for all we know it will have a separate exterior door...

Also, because I possess no maturity, I cracked up when I saw how the HTML link got abbreviated. I like to picture it with some well-placed exclamation points.
 
equilibria, leave it to the NY Post.

Hynes proposes that the vittles venue will include a full service restaurant.
 
quinninin said:
http://www.archboston.org/community/showpost.php?p=204154&postcount=1616

Isnt this the design we are talking about?
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The Herald article had the top rendering. However, some of the design is still in flux.

The developers are considering two or three concepts for the food pavilion, including a full-service restaurant on one end and multiple food vendors on the other with a common area seating, according to Hynes. An approximately 3,000-square-foot interactive Fallen Heroes Memorial room also is planned for inside the food pavilion.
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The juxtaposition of a "Fallen Heroes" memorial room inside a food court is insensitive in the least, and crassly commercial at worst.
 
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