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[bobthebuilder]

Is the bus station going to be, in the new building, essentially where it is today?

This presentation shows the floorplan for the expanded bus terminal. Dark green is the existing, light green is the new.

 

[cburns]

There was a crane swap out of some sort over the past week or so on the Summer St side of the core. A larger crane similar to the one on the Atlantic Ave side of the core, now sits in its place; still at that lower height of the former crane though.

 

[king_vibe]

One problem with South Station is that the wedge-shaped roof over the concourse is low, filthy, and extremely cluttered. Maybe the worst outside of NY Penn Station. It would be relatively easy to replace the roof trusses with something lighter and more airy, (it literally only has to support snow loads and mechanical equipment). The SST doesn't do anything to address it, and in fact it the tower will occupy a portion of that space, effectively blocking any future roof from accessing the sky.

 

[king_vibe]

Seriously, what is going on here? Look at all this crap. Look at the filthy ceilings.

I'd argue that the bars and shops are actually a good kind of clutter because it makes the area much more lively, but the whole roof structure is a mess. Imagine a Moynihan Train Hall-style skylight above the concourse...

 

[Bananarama]

I sorta dig the truss structure itself - it's about as light as it can be for those spans.
But I've always been irked by the sloppy concrete deck and rats nest of hvac too. Skylights would definitely make a cool renovation.

 

[chrisbrat]

I don't mind the ceiling at all and kind of like the exposed HVAC etc. which adds an industrial vibe that contrasts in a neat way (IMHO) with the neo-classical of the headhouse.

The very visible and omnipresent water-damage/stains and grime all over the ceiling panels, however, really pisses me off.

Refurb, redo, or -- I dunno, novel concept: CLEAN the damn thing.

 

[Aprehensive_Words]

With the tower going up over those big windows, it'll need skylights to keep it from being a cavern soon enough.

 

[king_vibe]

With the tower going up over those big windows, it'll need skylights to keep it from being a cavern soon enough.

Exactly!!

 

[MjolnirMan]

Relocate the HVAC units from the center area of the roof, remove the entire roof above the vendor area, replace with a slightly domed or pitched glass ceiling that drains water towards gutters on the edges.

People entering the main hall immediate get a gorgeous view of the new tower extending above, similar to this sort of view (with similar rotating decorative potential):

 

[Java King]

You don't have to travel to Seattle. We have a GREAT example right here in Boston of being able to see a tall building from a glass arcade.

I think it would be an AMAZING idea to have most of this current ceiling be a glass skylight that allows you to look up at the new South Station Tower.

 

[stick n move]

Relocate the HVAC units from the center area of the roof, remove the entire roof above the vendor area, replace with a slightly domed or pitched glass ceiling that drains water towards gutters on the edges.

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People entering the main hall immediate get a gorgeous view of the new tower extending above, similar to this sort of view (with similar rotating decorative potential):

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Great idea imo

 

[atlantaden]

So true, all of the above concerning glass skylights! The Moynihan Station in NYC, once the main sorting room of the US Post Office is a perfect example of a stunningly beautiful redo! Having said that, how lucky too, was NYC, to get this building from the USPS, while that same USPS seems unable or unwilling negotiate a move and give up it’s much
needed space to the MBTA!

James A. Farley Building - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Nibbles O’Plenty]

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Seriously, what is going on here? Look at all this crap. Look at the filthy ceilings.

I'd argue that the bars and shops are actually a good kind of clutter because it makes the area much more lively, but the whole roof structure is a mess. Imagine a Moynihan Train Hall-style skylight above the concourse...

How many people look at the ceiling?

 

[king_vibe]

How many people look at the ceiling?

 

[Nibbles O’Plenty]

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Those are very nice…but I was referring to the ceiling at South Station. Not much there to draw anyone’s interest.

 

[king_vibe]

Those are very nice…but I was referring to the ceiling at South Station. Not much there to draw anyone’s interest.

Interest? No. Scorn? Yes.

 

[Java King]

Keeping Traffic Humming at South Station Tower - Issuu

Any new construction in an older, densely built city will pose challenges — but the expansion of Boston’s South Station into a high-rise, mixed-use complex has its own unique set of issues.

issuu.com

Interesting article on the construction of the tower.

Concerning the skylight discussion above the current concourse of South Station, they would only be able to use about half of the current area for glass since the tower cantilevers over a good portion of the existing roof. (At least according to this graphic.) However, I still think it would be really nice to have skylights or a glass arcade slope up to the base where the glass windows start on the tower. Otherwise, the main concourse area will be pretty dark since all the windows and glass above the doors to the trains will be blocked.

 

[Dr. Rosen Rosen]

The tower is starting to show more out front. More steel frame too.

 

[Bruins11363]

The tower is starting to show more out front. More steel frame too.

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You can tell it's going to be growing further towards the street (out of your computer screen) because the last steel beam in that truss has tabs pointing towards the street. Just an FYI in general for looking at steel under construction

 

[fatnoah]

With the tower going up over those big windows, it'll need skylights to keep it from being a cavern soon enough.

To be honest, I've never paid much attention to the ceiling, but it is already a cavern with the light blockage from the construction.