The Alcott (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

[Coyote137]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

Height does matter though. In a city with an extremely limited supply of buildable land relative to other places and a rabid brainless if dwindling population of NIMBY's looking to knock down every project in an effort to give meaning to their otherwise empty lives, we need the height fetish crowd to keep asking important questions. Questions like, it is really worth delaying a project for 5 years in order to cut the height of a building down 100 feet to satisfy NIMBY trolls? If nobody is pushing that point, we get a bunch of 200 foot landscrapers and an ever growing housing crisis.

Very well said, but telling the height fetishists to not be inhuman monsters along the way is worth doing.

^I agree. I am just pointing out that I think Odurandina's comments about 65 Martha Rd. are a critique of the Architectural design of 65 Martha rd. (If a bit overzealous at times), not a desire to drive out the less fortunate.

I don't think he "desires" to drive out the less fortunate, it's that they're not at all on his radar - they don't merit his concern in even the slightest degree.

 

[odurandina]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

Quite the contrary. For introducing projects of this scale – great care must be done to address the public good. I've given it a lot of thought to the eviction side. Btw, great comments and nudging the topic over to 1 Charlestown.

Not only do you have the chance to add density while respecting shareholders' rights... But it's a transit hub with the way now prepared by all the recent construction.... just at safe-enough distance from Beacon Hill and the North End to call for NYC class of iconic height, architecture, and a crown for the West End, and probably, a significant feature at the tower's base to serve the neighborhood.

Eviction notices are an ugly part of a city with so little space. These folks should not be driven far from their homes. Aside from mobility issues, keeping them in the neighborhood can be a driver to a large development. Maybe 2 or 3 low-rise buildings can be replaced by an Echelon-shaped tower? Tenants could be relocated temporarily in recent vintage in as close to Charles River Park as can be accommodated.

65 Martha is developable to 60-66 stories. You do a repeat of the Four Seasons or Accordia's former plans for Winthrop Square. Like Winthrop Square, it can be a driver to fund significant improvements to quality of life for the people of the City... which also, would drive a tall skyscraper at 65 Martha Rd.

 

[stick n move]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

Were getting a nice little cluster here finally. The skyline used to disappear behind the landscrapers as you got on the zakim. This is going to add some width to the new northern edge of the skyline plus the government center garage towers are going to give some depth behind the hub towers. Pretty cool.

 

[Jouhou]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

Quite the contrary. For introducing projects of this scale – great care must be done to address the public good. I've given it a lot of thought to the eviction side. Btw, great comments and nudging the topic over to 1 Charlestown.

Not only do you have the chance to add density while respecting shareholders' rights... But it's a transit hub with the way now prepared by all the recent construction.... just at safe-enough distance from Beacon Hill and the North End to call for NYC class of iconic height, architecture, and a crown for the West End, and probably, a significant feature at the tower's base to serve the neighborhood.

Eviction notices are an ugly part of a city with so little space. These folks should not be driven far from their homes. Aside from mobility issues, keeping them in the neighborhood can be a driver to a large development. Maybe 2 or 3 low-rise buildings can be replaced by an Echelon-shaped tower? Tenants could be relocated temporarily in recent vintage in as close to Charles River Park as can be accommodated.

65 Martha is developable to 60-66 stories. You do a repeat of the Four Seasons or Accordia's former plans for Winthrop Square. Like Winthrop Square, it can be a driver to fund significant improvements to quality of life for the people of the City... which also, would drive a tall skyscraper at 65 Martha Rd.

I think the moral of the story here is, if that building currently provides low cost and/or subsidized housing, any redevelopment needs to replace that housing on site one for one. If that requires incentives such as increased height and density allowed, the more the merrier, but let's not displace any low income residents.

And I guess from a developers perspective, it's be a lot easier to get past opposition if rather than hurting current residents you benefit them by providing them with newly constructed housing.

 

[stick n move]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

65 Martha is not getting redeveloped.

 

[Jouhou]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

65 Martha is not getting redeveloped.

Well I figured it was Odu masturbating again but he still didn't get the point after the significant derailment and debate that followed this time.

 

[617]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

Why don’t we talk about the empty MGH parking lots across the street instead ?

 

[odurandina]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

^^This;

https://www.google.com/maps/place/7...35587cb16516d4!8m2!3d42.3648909!4d-71.0668177

That site to which i believe you are referring (Blossom Parking Lot?)–is where you build an 'Echelon shaped' thing with about 475 units and 800 car garage below....

then take down the 3 low-rises, build a 400~500 car garage under it fed by a 200' tube straight out to Storrow Dr under Thoreau path.... put in green patch/trees on 1/2 of the site above, w/ a slender 30 story/ ~140 unit tower on the footprint of the remaining half of the 3 low-rise footprint.... the 65 Martha residents move into the 475 unit tower..... Then you demolish "65" and build a 64 story lux condo/hotel tower.

re; Tosh/Globe; "The Big One" *one possible version.

The problem with building an actual skyscraper on that parking lot site–is shadow. You'd be pissing major shadow all over those fugly CRP towers, GG Tower, and the Esplanade.
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[FitchburgLine]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

Why don’t we talk about the empty MGH parking lots across the street instead ?

Seriously. It's huge, very transit accessible (just add a ramp to NS platform 12 for direct station access) and has the potential for >1k units.

 

[617]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

Seriously. It's huge, very transit accessible (just add a ramp to NS platform 12 for direct station access) and has the potential for >1k units.

And >1k’ tall.

 

[393b40]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

Get your cocks out boys! We're circle-jerking about tall towers again.

 

[pixelsand8]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

65 Martha is not getting redeveloped.

I think I'm going to start canvassing that building to try and get them organized to resist any sort of redevelopment/displacement plan. This is my new mission in life, to preserve 65 Martha - a wonderful architectural example of modest semi-affordable housing that survives within Boston's city core - to ensure it never becomes the 600' super tower some privileged nerds think it "should" be based on it's geography. Not saying I have any huge power here but at the very least people who actually live there should know that some random piece of shit on the internet wants their homes blown to dust. Who here wants to join me knocking on their doors? Serious inquiry.

 

[odurandina]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

@ Somerville thread...

Some of the rent increases are here now according to my facebook feed. They generally range from 500$-1000$ a month. One place went up 2000$ because they turned the common area into a "bedroom" and classified it as 4BR rather than 3.

Nice. This is why i love capitalism, and those who think outside the box to find solutions to society's tough problems in our worst runaway, pos tax states.... as opposed to fly by night socialist frauds like Ocasio-Cortez and my favorite City Councilor who fight capitalism and progress, while simultaneously pushing sanctuary cities. These commie assturds will never accomplish a God damned thing but lead this country further down the road to ruin.

Thanks again... + also, @ "65," *Keep the commie loon banter coming.



*The millionaires like Don Chiofaro who risked it all to provide jobs, and make real opportunities for people past, present & future (including the disabled) to live in Boston–got this.

 

[Jouhou]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

@ Somerville thread...


Nice. This is why i love capitalism, and those who think outside the box to find solutions to society's tough problems in our worst runaway, pos tax states.... as opposed to fly by night socialist frauds like Ocasio-Cortez and my favorite City Councilor who fight capitalism and progress, while simultaneously pushing sanctuary cities. These commie assturds will never accomplish a God damned thing but lead this country further down the road to ruin.

Thanks again... + also, @ "65," *Keep the commie loon banter coming.



*The millionaires like Don Chiofaro who risked it all to provide jobs, and make real opportunities for people past, present & future (including the disabled) to live in Boston–got this.

Wtf, dude, did you just cheer on runaway rent prices that are threatening to make us all homeless??? Also I'm full blown capitalist but worshipping "job creators" is such a load of horse shit. I'm sorry, are we lowly serfs groveling for the crumbs our creators might toss us? It's condescending as fuck.

 

[JumboBuc]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

Wtf, dude, did you just cheer on runaway rent prices that are threatening to make us all homeless??? Also I'm full blown capitalist but worshipping "job creators" is such a load of horse shit. I'm sorry, are we lowly serfs groveling for the crumbs our creators might toss us? It's condescending as fuck.

Ignore him

 

[odurandina]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

Wtf, dude, did you just cheer on runaway rent prices that are threatening to make us all homeless???

Nobody thinks you to be homeless, become a serf, or pay these astronomical rents. Quite the contrary. If however, the Commonwealth, cities and towns don't start shutting the lunatics down at transit hubs and stations, the situation will just keep getting worse. Screeching about limited evictions that will inevitably be invoked to prevent far greater peril is absurd utter bullshit. Maybe we should be talking about a real nightmare that could unfold in the not too distant future; a city forced to build housing at an undesirable distance from transit–instead of an imaginary crisis being spewed about developing "65."

People need to stop with the faux sobbing. If we're honest–the first real inclusion the City has seen in decades has begun under the Walsh Administration.

Also I'm full blown capitalist but worshiping "job creators" is such a load of horse shit. I'm sorry, are we lowly serfs groveling for the crumbs our creators might toss us? It's condescending as fuck.

i would cite Chiofaro's 1 & 2 International Place and countless developments that suffer numerous, unwarranted delays when developers are trying to properly time the market, or other factors that complicate the process and compound the risk/s unnecessarily.

 

[Coyote137]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

Local lunatic calls other people lunatics, can't see any gray area between completely unregulated capitalism and communism, and nears climax while daydreaming about a 1000+ foot building. Film at 11.

 

[FitchburgLine]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

Anyway. The other developable parcel that could be interesting is the Suffolk jail + associated parking lot (and Spaulding Rehab when that gets redeveloped)

 

[Beton Brut]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

^ Indeed. I'd also like to see some thought given to incorporating (and financing) the northern end of the NSRL through an air-rights project over the North Station tracks. Unlike South Station, there are no real height limits here.

 

[odurandina]

Re: Longfellow Place (née Garden Garage Towers) | 35 Lomasney Way | West End

The passion! but prolly be closer to 860' , and per NSRL, future train sheds etc, surely a long, protracted planning quandary.

daydreaming about a 1000+ foot building....

pushing 900' would be tough, even at North Station.

as for 65 Martha' Version #2 for "The Big One"

Tower 1: 65 Martha Road; 66 stories.... occupied floor ~790'.... ~870' @ some type of spire tip (that we never got at the Hub or in Back Bay).

Tower 2; 675' not in the West End but, under-the-radar Downtown site

Tower 3, bldgs 4, 5 & 6 also not in the West End incl affordable housing component....

2.4M sq ft, ~$2.5B – City rakes the tax dollars for more affordable housing.