The Hub on Causeway (née TD Garden Towers) | 80 Causeway Street | West End

Equilibria said:
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$1.1b Hub on Causeway project is remaking a neighborhood - The Boston Globe

The $1.1 billion Hub on Causeway complex is going to transform the North Station area. Will it all be for the better?
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The fake North Station arch in "Banners" is a nice look.

Also, I think the chances that Hub on Causeway kills off all the other bars and restaurants in the neighborhood as this article suggests is basically nil. There's like 2 new restaurants and a Kings-style bowling alley in this place. Give the hand-wringing a break.
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The homeless shitting on the sidewalk a few feet from where they shoot up, bang and sleep rough has a far greater impact on foot traffic and local patronage than two new restaurants moving in. My brother and sister-in-law couldn't wait to move out of their unit on Haverhill St, which they'd occupied for just six months. Once they found out she was expecting they broke the lease and booked it.
 
statler said:
Ugh. Poors. So gross!
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There is nothing wrong with not wanting to see people shooting up drugs and defecating on the streets. Most of these people are mentally ill and should be in care facilities, not allowed to loiter on the streets and bother people trying to work and lead their lives.
 
Equilibria said:
I think the chances that Hub on Causeway kills off all the other bars and restaurants in the neighborhood as this article suggests is basically nil.
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When places like Beer Works are packed wall-to-wall before events, I think there's enough foot traffic to go around
 
underground said:
When places like Beer Works are packed wall-to-wall before events, I think there's enough foot traffic to go around
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The thing is that these places are packed before events, but they're empty (if they're even open) outside of events. If they go from "packed wall-to-wall" to "merely full" on game day, then that might not be enough to hold them over on non-game days. I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of the more "fringe" sports bars in area ends up losing out to competition from, e.g., "Banners." The ones on Canal are probably fine, but what about the ones on Friend or Portland?

In the end, the change in the neighborhood will cause the bar scene to diversify. That's a good thing. I used to work at an office in the Bulfinch Triangle, and the exclusively-sports-bars restaurant scene sucked. If the Hub on Causeway sucks up some of the sports bar demand and existing sports bars transition to focusing on new markets (like all the new residents and office workers moving in) that would be a win for the city. Look at the Fenway: you have the sports bars but you also have plenty of other options. The Bulfinch Triangle will hopefully look more like this.
 
The Star Market is OPEN! Swung through and took a few pictures. It's quite big and very nice. They had a lot of free samples available for the grand opening. Sorry for the generally poor photo quality, I was in a hurry and it was pretty busy!

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navigator4 said:
There is nothing wrong with not wanting to see people shooting up drugs and defecating on the streets. Most of these people are mentally ill and should be in care facilities, not allowed to loiter on the streets and bother people trying to work and lead their lives.
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i agree.
We don't need the hospitals taking up valuable land in the City.
Take the ones not too far gone.
Build a giant camp out west (the Rockies, not Rocky Woods).
Cold turkey. Food 'em. Then get 'em digging firebreaks,
highway crews n big agro.
They gotta earn their way back.
 
odurandina said:
i agree.
We don't need the hospitals taking up valuable land in the City.
Take the ones not too far gone.
Build a giant camp out west (the Rockies, not Rocky Woods).
Cold turkey. Food 'em. Then get 'em digging firebreaks,
highway crews n big agro.
They gotta earn their way back.
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And what do you propose doing with the ones who are “too far gone"?

Since you’re essentially advocating for concentration camps I have a pretty good idea but it’d be interesting to hear your spin.
 
kmp1284 said:
And what do you propose doing with the ones who are “too far gone"?

Since you’re essentially advocating for concentration camps I have a pretty good idea but it’d be interesting to hear your spin.
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The taxpayers, renters, etc are paying through the nose. They don't want another Calcutta (re; Los Angeles, San Francisco, Fresno, etc).
What do you think we had in the 1950's? We didn't have 1 or 2 huge concentration camps back in the day: we had a whole slew of them.
And they were huge facilities on multiple acreages....

EVERYONE on MSDNC and CNN is advocating a return of mental treatment.
Just what in the hell do you think that means? Yep: not just the kids tearing up the schools, but a whole sweep: getting people off the streets by any and every means necessary.

You bet your ass we used to have concentration camps. We just called them sanitariums and other such nonsense nouns.

Can anyone argue that society is paying through the nose for the collapse of mental treatment in America. This is a time bomb. But we have a laundry list of chemicals slowly killing people, and Fentanyl that kills people much faster, giving further cover to our mental health epidemic.

Boston State Hospital - demolished; now mixed-use
Danvers State Hospital - demolished due to recurring unexplainable fires in the west wing; its original staging has been repurposed into the building Avalon Bay at Danvers; admittance is no longer allowed; property is owned by Avalon Condominium Company
Foxborough State Hospital - half demolished; condominiums
Gaebler Children's Center - demolished; land labeled as a park
Gardner State Hospital - buildings converted into prison
Grafton State Hospital - admittance not permitted; owned by the state; MPs patrol frequently; one must work at Job Corps in order to gain admittance
Medfield State Hospital THIS PLACE WAS HUGE - standing, allowed to walk grounds from dawn till dusk, no admittance in buildings
Metropolitan State Hospital - mostly demolished for condominiums; one building remains abandoned on the property and one was rehabilitated into condominiums
Northampton State Hospital - demolished; empty field
Pondville State Hospital - partly demolished; part converted into Caritas Southwood Community Hospital, also defunct
Rutland Heights State Hospital - demolished; land unused; future unknown
Taunton State Hospital - hospital demolished; other buildings active; future unknown
Lovering Colony - demolished; land unused
Simeon E. Borden (Raynham Farm) Colony - demolished; land in use by the town of Raynham
Westborough State Hospital - currently being demolished for condominiums
Worcester State Hospital - 95% demolished;
 
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#bancars said:
The Star Market is OPEN! Swung through and took a few pictures. It's quite big and very nice. They had a lot of free samples available for the grand opening. Sorry for the generally poor photo quality, I was in a hurry and it was pretty busy!
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Thanks for the pics! I walked around at about 11:45. It wasn't too busy (didn't feel that way, anyway). I was able to grab what I needed and walk right up to the register. Tons of staff on hand seeming like they didn't have much to do. I'm happy with it though. It's essentially a larger Roche brothers. The layout seems to be pretty good too.

I know it's stupid to get excited about Starbucks, but I'm happy for that piece of the development too (though I wish it had a separate entrance). I get a ton of Starbucks gift cards at work, for birthdays, christmas, etc. So it's nice to have one in this corner of the city now.
 
I already know why.. but keep asking myself: What is the obsession/misconception in this city that the only supermarkets that can work, are 30-60K suburban style markets. I literally had 5 small format markets near my flat in London (most half the size, or likely less, than a typical suburban CVS ). I survived, as do the other 8M residents on a daily basis. It has been DECADES of moaning in this city 'we need a supermarket in the Seaport, we need a market in the West End', and literally it's like what the actual fuck? How could the small format model not work in urban centers, especially when the workday population doubles?? Why do endless ATMs and CVS's find a way to propagate, but fresh food.... HAS to be a suburban style store only?
 
DTX Roche, West End Whole Foods, Back Bay Trader Joe's, etc. all seem in line with what I've been to in Europe. North End's got the Golden Goose and Go Banana's too. Smaller format definitely exists in Boston, and works.
 
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Lol no thats where there used to be an external elevator. It will be dark blue.
 
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