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Not an expert, but I'll provide some of what I've gathered:
All things considered, steel could be rising in a few months to a year from now. It's really hard to tell, I'd say.
Not an expert, but I'll provide some of what I've gathered:
- We have no indication this has been approved, right? All of this could still be preliminary excavation, thought it is getting pretty substantial at this point
- Will be a 4 foot thick slurry wall and they're going to need to ensure their geotechnical engineering is top-of-the-line, based off the neighbor's legitimate foundation concerns and their tarnished reputation from San Fran (I know they're separate entities, just saying, their reputation has been tarnished in the general public). Long story short, foundation/slurry wall will probably take a while
- They're intending on top-down construction, which could mean steel going up soon after the slurry wall is complete, as opposed to waiting for the hole to be completely excavated and then filled before seeing steel at street level
All things considered, steel could be rising in a few months to a year from now. It's really hard to tell, I'd say.
Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District
Steel may be what... Trumps ... all other considerations (horrible pun, I know, especially in light of how he's destroying our democracy/constitutional republic). My understanding is they've nearly gained 100% of all needed regulatory permits. But with the idiotic trade war/tariff stuff: do they slow-play it to see if the Orange Idiot de-escalates? I'm sure they'll do concrete pour like at MTower. Regardless, they still must do a massive steel buy for rebar, etc., right? Therefore a swing in either direction of steel prices right now is presumably huge for this project (?)
Steel may be what... Trumps ... all other considerations (horrible pun, I know, especially in light of how he's destroying our democracy/constitutional republic). My understanding is they've nearly gained 100% of all needed regulatory permits. But with the idiotic trade war/tariff stuff: do they slow-play it to see if the Orange Idiot de-escalates? I'm sure they'll do concrete pour like at MTower. Regardless, they still must do a massive steel buy for rebar, etc., right? Therefore a swing in either direction of steel prices right now is presumably huge for this project (?)
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Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District
I'm actually ok with this because the lumber & steel tariffs are having a MASSIVE effect on the building industry causing prices to skyrocket and estimates to be blown. Because of the market volatility, contractors are getting quotes on things like steel & wood sheathing that are valid for a day only.
So glad we have to inject politics into this at every opportunity.
I'm actually ok with this because the lumber & steel tariffs are having a MASSIVE effect on the building industry causing prices to skyrocket and estimates to be blown. Because of the market volatility, contractors are getting quotes on things like steel & wood sheathing that are valid for a day only.
Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District
I would say it's a fine observation except leave out the part in parenthesis. That's the "political bs" part that belongs somewhere else. The rest of it is totally applicable.
I would say it's a fine observation except leave out the part in parenthesis. That's the "political bs" part that belongs somewhere else. The rest of it is totally applicable.
Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District
..So I'm guessing this is also a shit time to undergo fairly comprehensive upgrade projects at home?
..So I'm guessing this is also a shit time to undergo fairly comprehensive upgrade projects at home?
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I hope they don't make this a bulky building. 691' is tall enough for boston (tallest in downtown) but if its bulky it will detract from it.
Also Millenium Tower is a very pretty building, the renders for this look a lot less attractive.
I hope they don't make this a bulky building. 691' is tall enough for boston (tallest in downtown) but if its bulky it will detract from it.
Also Millenium Tower is a very pretty building, the renders for this look a lot less attractive.
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Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District
Still moving earth around and slurry work.
https://flic.kr/p/28KkZgT
https://flic.kr/p/27nyvos
The park
Still moving earth around and slurry work.
https://flic.kr/p/28KkZgThttps://flic.kr/p/27nyvosThe park
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Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District
Tariffs do not appear to be a partisan issue anyways. It's more like people who see the negative impact (us) vs people who don't know and don't care.
But yeah, terrible time to be driving up construction material prices. At least concrete isn't impacted?
Tariffs do not appear to be a partisan issue anyways. It's more like people who see the negative impact (us) vs people who don't know and don't care.
But yeah, terrible time to be driving up construction material prices. At least concrete isn't impacted?
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Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District
Wut? As you can clearly see the garage is gone and this question should have been directed to the X thread, not the project thread in the first place.
What's Happening on Project X Thread:
http://www.archboston.org/community/showthread.php?t=5089&page=59
Wut? As you can clearly see the garage is gone and this question should have been directed to the X thread, not the project thread in the first place.
What's Happening on Project X Thread:
http://www.archboston.org/community/showthread.php?t=5089&page=59
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Ah, fantastic. I kind of assumed it must have, but I must have missed the official announcement. Guessing we probably have a long way to go to see it going vertical though.
Ah, fantastic. I kind of assumed it must have, but I must have missed the official announcement. Guessing we probably have a long way to go to see it going vertical though.
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Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District
With all the other stuff going on at North Station / Basketball City and the Seaport, I completely forgot about this one.
Good to see Boston construction so busy.
With all the other stuff going on at North Station / Basketball City and the Seaport, I completely forgot about this one.
Good to see Boston construction so busy.
Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District
I'm not able to do the research to find a source, but I'm pretty sure that the developers were required to do extensive additional geo-engineering info in order to guarantee abutting property owners that fre foundation work necessary to build this tower won't impact their foundational stability.
I'm not able to do the research to find a source, but I'm pretty sure that the developers were required to do extensive additional geo-engineering info in order to guarantee abutting property owners that fre foundation work necessary to build this tower won't impact their foundational stability.
Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District
https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2018/09/27/billion-winthrop-square-tower-clears-final-hurdle/logtXjKYJaCmFw3hOujiKL/story.html
"Now Millennium will get to work on the tower, which will include 1.6 million square feet of office space and condominiums, and be the tallest building in the downtown area. The developer has demolished the shuttered garage on the site, which sits between Devonshire and Federal streets, pulled a foundation permit and recently began excavation work. The building is scheduled to be finished in 2022."
Rock and/or roll.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2018/09/27/billion-winthrop-square-tower-clears-final-hurdle/logtXjKYJaCmFw3hOujiKL/story.html
"Now Millennium will get to work on the tower, which will include 1.6 million square feet of office space and condominiums, and be the tallest building in the downtown area. The developer has demolished the shuttered garage on the site, which sits between Devonshire and Federal streets, pulled a foundation permit and recently began excavation work. The building is scheduled to be finished in 2022."
Rock and/or roll.
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Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District
^ Thanks DBM!
And seriously, anyone in the city who opposed this needs to STFU:
Truth:
This is not that tall/imposing of a tower, it is a decent design, and it is nestled in the middle of the financial district amongst a bunch of other towers.
Thus:
City gets a shitload of cash, and the overall impact on 99.99% of Bostonians' way of life is effectively zero.
This is a Win-Win for everyone, and all the opposition to this was total BS.
^ Thanks DBM!
And seriously, anyone in the city who opposed this needs to STFU:
Truth:
This is not that tall/imposing of a tower, it is a decent design, and it is nestled in the middle of the financial district amongst a bunch of other towers.
Thus:
City gets a shitload of cash, and the overall impact on 99.99% of Bostonians' way of life is effectively zero.
This is a Win-Win for everyone, and all the opposition to this was total BS.