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Re: Trans National Place (Winthrop Square) Part 2

^Stunning. I would take that anywhere.
 
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^ Agreed.

But Boston NIMBYs would kill it.

(Not contextual.)
 
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Very cool.
 
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It may not be completely contextual, but the way the tower proposal has gone so far at Copley Place (read: far less opposition than expected and partially do to a nice design) gives me hope that even NIMBYs can show some good taste. That Herzog design, though proposed for 800ft, would look good scaled down too.

I'll cut it off right here as that is proposed for NYC, not Boston; and chances are something of that caliber would never be proposed/ make it here.
 
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Man, Boston is such a defeatist town. No one on this board can even dream big any more.
 
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^ Nutshell.

It's in the air.
 
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I'd love to see that NY tower in Boston...in the right location and with the right scale it would be fabulous.
 
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Wow, that tower is terrific, but I'd need a stiff drink just to step out onto one of those upper-floor balconies.
 
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Somehow I can picture the NY bldg in Cambridge as part of a new, more significant skyline as seen from the Esplanade.
 
Re: Trans National Place (Winthrop Square) Part 2

Credit crisis hits big Hub projects
Some towers being built but many stalled
By Thomas Grillo
Sunday, November 16, 2008 - Added 11h ago


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Boston is in the midst of a credit crisis that has slowed most commercial real estate development to a halt.

A handful of projects were lucky enough to secure financing before lenders got jittery. Others are seeking to fill their yet-to-be-built office buildings while the rest are stalled.

At stake are $16 billion in deals that would add millions of square feet of office space, plus hundreds of hotel rooms and luxury condominiums to the downtown.

The projects include the Government Center Garage redevelopment, a luxury hotel in the Theater District and Fenway Center, the transit-oriented development to be built above the Massachusetts Turnpike in Kenmore Square.

The W Hotel was one of the lucky projects. The 26-story, 350,000-square-foot hotel is expected to open in August and construction crews are already installing windows and readying the tower for interior work.

The Clarendon, a 350-unit combination of rental and condominiums across from the John Hancock, will hold a topping off ceremony on Tuesday, a symbolic event that celebrates installation of the final piece of steel.

Despite persistent rumors that construction on the first office building at Fan Pier is expected to be put on hold, the project?s financier insists that the 500,000-square-foot Class A office space is on target for completion. But possible tenant Vertex Pharmaceuticals is reportedly backing away from committing to a second, as-yet-unstarted, Fan Pier building.

Reed S. Woodworth, vice president of PFK Consulting, a New York-based firm that tracks hotel development, said that timing is everything. ?If a developer had not broken ground three months ago, they will probably be delayed until the credit markets open up again,? he said.

Construction was expected to commence earlier this year at South Station for a 1 million square-foot development at the transit hub. But plans for a 40-story office tower and two smaller buildings that will contain a hotel and condominiums are on hold until the credit markets open.

?There is no financing today, so we are not spending much time on that,? said David Perry, senior vice president at the developer, Houston-based Hines. ?We are waiting until credit frees next year. In the meantime, we are talking to potential tenants.?

But so far, there have been no takers for the office space, Perry said. ?There?s an abundance of caution among tenants who are seeing their economic future growing increasingly uncertain and they?re hesitant about making space commitments,? he added. ?Until such time that there?s more clarity on the depth and length of the recession, everyone will take a wait-and-see attitude.?

cw0 So far, plans for a 1,000-foot tower at Winthrop Square championed by Mayor Thomas M. Menino have stalled. Sources say the project is dead and that Steven Belkin, chairman of Boston-based Trans National Properties, probably will never build the city?s tallest tower.

Crews building One Franklin Street, the $700 million Filenes?s redevelopment, have disappeared from Washington Street. The 39-story mixed-use project, which is expected to transform Downtown Crossing with office, hotel, residential and retail space, is on hold until John Hynes, the developer, can secure more financing.

Still, Menino remains optimistic, saying that Boston is not immune to the global credit crunch.

?Any delays in projects have nothing to do with Boston. This is happening everywhere,? he said. ?But I?m confident that when the credit becomes available, these projects will get back on track.?

So tommy tower is now dead. I blame half of this on bad planning on the major's office.The other half on the economy.[
 
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Will they learn to move projects through the pipeline faster in the future? Can all the "improvements" claimed to come out of the approval process possibly be worth the risk of no built project at all? (Rhetorical question; the "improvements" usually aren't improvements at all. They're the maunderings of stupidos.)
 
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So tommy tower is now dead. I blame half of this on bad planning on the major's office.The other half on the economy.[


We learned months ago from the FAA that it was dead from the beginning.
 
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Developer?s move nixes plan for Tommy?s Tower
By Thomas Grillo
Wednesday, February 18, 2009

The 1,000-foot Tommy?s Tower is dead.

Steven Belkin, the developer of what would have been the city?s tallest skyscraper, is selling his 56,000-square-foot building in the Fenway and moving his Trans National Group travel agency to 133 Federal St., sources told the Herald.

The 12-story Financial District tower would have been demolished to make way for the 80-story glass tower that Mayor Thomas M. Menino hoped would be built. With TNT Vacations moving its staff to Federal Street, it is unlikely Belkin will raze the building anytime soon, sources said.

This is the latest in a series of missteps that doomed the ?iconic tower.? First, Belkin and celebrated Italian architect Renzo Piano parted ways. Later, Belkin and the city could not agree on a price for the Winthrop Square parking garage, which would have been part of the project. Then financing for commercial development over $10 million dried up.

Robert Griffin, president of Cushman & Wakefield, the global commercial real estate company, is handling the sale of the Fenway property at 2 Charlesgate West near Fenway Park [map]. He said the six-story building?s location near the Longwood medical area makes it a valuable asset at a time when the vacancy rate in that area is zero. The building is assessed at $5.6 million.


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Exxxxxcellent!

Another Rudolph has been saved and might make it well into the second half of its century.

We all suspected this would happen. Take that, Jabba!

Now lets find somebody more worthy and adventerous to develop the garage site, paired with an architect to match. Unfortunately, probably a twenty year plan, if lucky. That garage eyesore will burn our retinas for a while. No matter. 'Yay!' to saving the Rudolph--makes it worthwhile. Talk about another building in need of TLC. Hope Belkin considers this and does a complete overhaul/restoration and not something superfically cosmetic just to get his company in there quickly--likely, though. *sigh*

As an added bonus, something better may be brewing for the Fenway site, too. Belkin's former HQ has got to go--fast--as fitting retribution for trying to kill off 133 Federal. :D
 
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So does Belkin still own the parking garage or could this be sold to another developer?
 
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^ Doesn't the City own the parking garage?
 
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The city still owns the garage. Belkin and the city couldnt agree on a price for the garage.
 
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So another 60's cement monstrosity will survive a little (or a lot) longer....
 

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