MA Casino Developments

I wish they could build a casino on one of the harbor islands and a bridge to it. (probably going to get thumped with this comment)
 
How about Deer Island? So when people flush their money down the toilet, it doesn't have to go very far.
 
TheRifleman said:
After seeing what the Democrats did in this state last night. Benton they might put a casino lobby in your house.
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Did the Democrats put casino lobbies in weird places last night? I missed that. I was busy watching election coverage.
 
AmericanFolkLegend said:
Did the Democrats put casino lobbies in weird places last night? I missed that. I was busy watching election coverage.
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And why just the lobby? Screw the lobby. I want the casino in there if I'm gonna have anything.
 
Suffolk Downs casino's biggest supporter hasn't been heard from in 12 days and counting.

Flowers and candy can be sent to Brigham & Women's Hospital, Boston, MA.
 
AmericanFolkLegend said:
Did the Democrats put casino lobbies in weird places last night? I missed that. I was busy watching election coverage.
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NO.... the Democrats did not put the casino lobbies in weird places. They slammed the legislative vote up our @sses without our opinions. I thought these fuck-heads work for us? Not the other way around.

I can't believe you people think a billion dollar casino is remotely a good idea in this part of the city. This is one of the worst ideas I have ever seen slammed down the publics best interest throat.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Eastie will vote on this. Isn't it the case where if they vote it down, it won't happen.
 
GW2500 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Eastie will vote on this. Isn't it the case where if they vote it down, it won't happen.
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What I heard and Benton can correct me if I'm wrong. Menino will look if he has the majority of the Eastie Vote, If he doesn't he will bring it to the council and try to make it a CITY wide vote. Which will bring in Hyde Park, Roxbury and other communities that really have no clue on what is going on. I would actually question the election vote tampering in these areas because who is really paying attention.
 
Everett in talks with Hard Rock for casino
By Dave Wedge
Thursday, November 8, 2012 - Updated 11 hours ago

A blighted plot of industrial land just off the Mystic River in Everett could become a gleaming waterfront casino as an international gaming giant has begun talks with the city that could yield a new, deep-pocketed player to challenge Suffolk Downs, officials told the Herald.

Everett Mayor Carlo DeMaria said he has had preliminary talks with representatives of Hard Rock International, as well as Chicago casino titans Rush Street Gaming, about a 40-acre waterfront site bordered by Route 99 and the Mystic River that formerly housed Monsanto Chemical Co. Hard Rock officials have met with the site owner, listed as FBT Everett realty, and spoken to the city about a possible casino resort, including a glass tower and new marina, the mayor said. “I’m excited to see what plans they put forward,” DeMaria said.

Formal plans have not been made and Hard Rock — which abandoned plans to build a casino in Springfield — has not met with the Massachusetts Gaming Commission to discuss the application process.

But DeMaria said Hard Rock officials are “serious” about the site, which includes a deep water port, direct access to Boston Harbor and close access to Interstate 93. Talks have included the possibility of a new ramp off I-93, as well as a new commuter rail station and water taxi service, DeMaria said.

“The site is a hidden gem,” he said. “Something good is going to happen there. I’m anxious to look at the proposal.”

DeMaria said he also had talks with Rush Street Gaming several months ago but has not heard any more from the company, which is reportedly eyeing several Massachusetts sites. Rush Street officials formed a local arm called Massachusetts Gaming and Entertainment LLC. The company, headed by casino titan Neil Bluhm, is among several firms that met with state gaming officials in the past week.

MGC spokeswoman Elaine Driscoll said Hard Rock hasn’t contacted the board, adding, “We’d welcome any new developers that may come forward.”

The Herald reported last week that two Springfield developers were furious that MGC Chairman Stephen Crosby, seeking competition in Boston, urged Hard Rock to consider the Boston area, where Suffolk Downs is seen as the odds-on favorite to land a casino license. Hard Rock and Rush Street officials did not respond to requests for comment, but both companies are reportedly interested in a Bay State casino deal.

DeMaria was confident Everett voters would back a casino, if the deal includes guaranteed jobs for residents and ample tax revenue for the city. “I think the people of Everett would probably say yes,” he said. “Why not us?”

-— dwedge@bostonherald.com
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http://www.bostonherald.com/news/re..._hard_rock_for_casino/srvc=home&position=also

So much ambition so little infrastructure.
 
No comment on the proposal, but it mentions a commuter rail stop. I assume this would be the line that goes from NS to Chelsea-Lynn, and north. Is there a possibility of ever getting an Indigo-style line that goes from NS-Everett-Chelsea-Lynn on this route? Everett and Chelsea seem like areas that would greatly benefit from more transit access, and I think doing this could be done independently or in conjunction with the BLX to Lynn (if ever).
 
That site would have a spectacular view of the power plant and complete gridlock on route 99.
 
When Everett developed Gateway Center a decade ago, this site next to 99 was supposed to become a Shaw's supermarket. It had Shaw's Coming Soon signs up for years.

My recollection is that Shaw's cancelled their plans after the state denied them a permit to build a road crossing the commuter rail tracks over to the rest of Gateway Center.

Anyone remember more?
 
The problem with a commuter rail stop here is that it wouldn't really serve any part of Everett where people actually live. Same as when the Orange Line used to end here.
 
Overall I'm far more excited by the development potential here than at Suffolk Downs. I'm a bit worried about transit accessibility, though. A CR stop is actually pretty useless - an urban area casino requires mass transit, nothing less. The real fix would have to be an expensive-ish OL or GL branch. Less attractive but still possible would be a long covered footbridge from Wellington or Assembly.
 
Officejab said:
That site would have a spectacular view of the power plant and complete gridlock on route 99.
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And the MWRA sewage pumping plant. And the scrap metal station. And yet another oil tank farm. Riff is right on this one - so little infrastructure. Road access from Boston is poor. No transit. No expressway access. Many people have discussed a pedestrian crossing at the Earhart Dam which would be right at the new Assembly Sq. station but that would be seriously cold and miserable in the winter. Not a good option.
 
Semass said:
And the MWRA sewage pumping plant. And the scrap metal station. And yet another oil tank farm. Riff is right on this one - so little infrastructure. Road access from Boston is poor. No transit. No expressway access. Many people have discussed a pedestrian crossing at the Earhart Dam which would be right at the new Assembly Sq. station but that would be seriously cold and miserable in the winter. Not a good option.
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100% RIGHT..........A casino will never happen here. This is the Everett Mayor seeing what he can get out of the Suffolk deal if an opposition appears.

What area might be do-able in Everett is the OLD General Electric....right near Boston Coach. Would have to rebuild the area infrastructure but it might be workable especially Malden Center Orange line cuts right through, might be able to setup a stop right there.
 
TheRifleman said:
What I heard and Benton can correct me if I'm wrong. Menino will look if he has the majority of the Eastie Vote, If he doesn't he will bring it to the council and try to make it a CITY wide vote. Which will bring in Hyde Park, Roxbury and other communities that really have no clue on what is going on. I would actually question the election vote tampering in these areas because who is really paying attention.
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In this scenario, I think the prospect of voter passage is actually less. I think once the liberal sensibilities of JP/South End, plus the general patrician attitudes of Beacon Hill and the Back Bay become involved - the road toward passage gets a lot muddier.

I still want to know what happens if Suffolk decides to locate the entire gaming facility on the Revere side of the property. As a Revere resident, I can't envision any scenario where Revere would vote this down. As an added quirk, Suffolk also owns the Wonderland property. If the vote in Eastie/Boston fails and the Revolution soccer stadium proves a bust - Wonderland could be their Ace in the hole - pun intended.
 
GW2500 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Eastie will vote on this.
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Indeed, as it stands now, East Boston will vote on the Suffolk Downs / Caesars Entertainment Group proposal. Details on the present state of the process are here.

TheRifleman said:
Menino will look if he has the majority of the Eastie Vote, If he doesn't he will bring it to the council and try to make it a CITY wide vote.
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This is an educated guess on the part of many people, both for and against the concept of a casino at Suffolk Downs: the Mayor will engineer the process to deliver the result he desires. We've seen this time and again in the development realm away from the question of casino gambling inside the city limits. This is an important reason why Tom Menino needs to go.

And on the matter of the vote that will take place, I want everyone to have a clear understanding of what's being voted on, and how the legislation is written:

1.) The Host Community will vote to accept or not accept the "mitigation package" that the Host Community Advisory Committee has negotiated with the proponents;
2.) A YES vote allows the proponents to proceed with their plans; a NO vote allows them six months to re-draft their "mitigation package" and request another vote.

Yes means yes. No means maybe. Representative Democracy at work...

To quote the late, great George Carlin, "The table is tilted, folks." That's why members of the organized opposition are also working state-wide to repeal the legislation.

On Tuesday, about 40 volunteers were at every polling place in East Boston distributing information to voters about the implications of the proposed casino to our community. The negative sentiment is strong, and growing. When the time comes, we're gonna beat this.
 
jdrinboston said:
In this scenario, I think the prospect of voter passage is actually less. I think once the liberal sensibilities of JP/South End, plus the general patrician attitudes of Beacon Hill and the Back Bay become involved - the road toward passage gets a lot muddier.

I still want to know what happens if Suffolk decides to locate the entire gaming facility on the Revere side of the property. As a Revere resident, I can't envision any scenario where Revere would vote this down. As an added quirk, Suffolk also owns the Wonderland property. If the vote in Eastie/Boston fails and the Revolution soccer stadium proves a bust - Wonderland could be their Ace in the hole - pun intended.
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Benton, you better have this avenue covered. Jdrinboston brings up a real good point about how Revere could be the Ace of spades.
 
TheRifleman said:
NO.... the Democrats did not put the casino lobbies in weird places. They slammed the legislative vote up our @sses without our opinions. I thought these fuck-heads work for us? Not the other way around.

I can't believe you people think a billion dollar casino is remotely a good idea in this part of the city. This is one of the worst ideas I have ever seen slammed down the publics best interest throat.
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I agree and also feel a casino is not good for any part of the city and any nearby cities/towns. I personally don't want a casino within 128, but that's just me.
 
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