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Article behind the paywall in the Globe:
The developers of a 21-story residential tower at Pier 4 in the South Boston Innovation District are seeking to acquire special flood barriers to cover doors and parking garage entrances, and many others have sandbags at the ready in case of a major storm.

Executives at Pier 4, which is being led by the Hanover Co., had considered raising the building’s ground floor to gain greater clearance from flooding, but that would have made it more difficult and expensive to preserve handicapped accessibility, requiring a series of ramps into the building from the street.
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http://www.bostonglobe.com/business...development/b4eCLXFdwk5d8hUHcYdIeI/story.html

The larger article discusses the fear of rising sea levels and the assessment of the effects of a future storm like Sandy on the Boston waterfront. Other developers mentioned included Fallon and Fan Pier, Don Chiofaro Jr. (Harbor Garage), 255 State, Spaulding,

Menino created a Green Ribbon Commission to examine the effects of sea level rise, and it issued a report last week. The report outlined steps property owners should consider to mitigate effects, and the BRA is identifying the most vulnerable properties.
 
Re: Pier 4

stellarfun said:
Article behind the paywall in the Globe:


http://www.bostonglobe.com/business...development/b4eCLXFdwk5d8hUHcYdIeI/story.html

The larger article discusses the fear of rising sea levels and the assessment of the effects of a future storm like Sandy on the Boston waterfront. Other developers mentioned included Fallon and Fan Pier, Don Chiofaro Jr. (Harbor Garage), 255 State, Spaulding,

Menino created a Green Ribbon Commission to examine the effects of sea level rise, and it issued a report last week. The report outlined steps property owners should consider to mitigate effects, and the BRA is identifying the most vulnerable properties.
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I don't see anything done about this. Our leaders are not proactive at all, so they will just wait to see what happens.

The Federal Govt and states are in so much debt, that when they finally get the report on rising sea levels and how much it will cost. They will balk on the final tab to help prevent a Sandy type storm hit the east coast our leaders will disregard any-type of real infrastructure upgrades like the levees in New Orleans for example. (Talk about leaving those people high & dry)

Nobody really cares what is best for the taxpayers & citizens anymore. Its just about tax breaks for the Politically connected to help create jobs.

I think all the private businesses in Boston along with the Non-profit Universities need to come together and help find a feasible & economic solution. Local State & Fed Govt are useless these days.
 
Re: Pier 4

only thing im scared of is that the renders show it having a very similar facade to waterside place, even with the black glass strip, hopefully they make it regular precast and not horizontal and vertical alternating lines on the panels.
 
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Can anyone clarify for me what is going to happen to Atlantic beer Garden and Whiskey Pries as Pier 4 moves forward? I really hope some version of them gets kept, even if its moved elsewhere on the waterfront. Both roofdecks are amazing when the weather is good and I'd hate to see them lost.
 
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stick n move said:
only thing im scared of is that the renders show it having a very similar facade to waterside place, even with the black glass strip, hopefully they make it regular precast and not horizontal and vertical alternating lines on the panels.
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Isn't Pier 4 mostly glass? http://www.nedevelopment.com/portfolio/boston/Pier4May2013.pdf I have more confidence in the developers of Pier 4 than Waterside. Perhaps it is wishful thinking but I don't see them cheaping out especially if they are making the hotel component a luxury hotel which I fully expect.
 
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This is one of the most important developments for the Seaport District.
 
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BosDevelop said:
Isn't Pier 4 mostly glass? http://www.nedevelopment.com/portfolio/boston/Pier4May2013.pdf I have more confidence in the developers of Pier 4 than Waterside. Perhaps it is wishful thinking but I don't see them cheaping out especially if they are making the hotel component a luxury hotel which I fully expect.
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That's an old rendering. The latest one was shared on here almost a year ago, and continues to be the rendering advertised at the construction site as well:

http://www.archboston.org/community/showpost.php?p=158523&postcount=211

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MBTAddict said:
Can anyone clarify for me what is going to happen to Atlantic beer Garden and Whiskey Pries as Pier 4 moves forward? I really hope some version of them gets kept, even if its moved elsewhere on the waterfront. Both roofdecks are amazing when the weather is good and I'd hate to see them lost.
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To the best of my knowledge, those restaurants are independent of the Pier 4 project and are at no risk of getting torn down unless their landlord decides to sell/build something in their place. (but again, I have no recollection of anything filed with the BRA to redevelop that site)
 
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dshoost88 said:
To the best of my knowledge, those restaurants are independent of the Pier 4 project and are at no risk of getting torn down unless their landlord decides to sell/build something in their place. (but again, I have no recollection of anything filed with the BRA to redevelop that site)
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This
 
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The Priest is right there in the rendering
 
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dshoost88 said:
To the best of my knowledge, those restaurants are independent of the Pier 4 project and are at no risk of getting torn down unless their landlord decides to sell/build something in their place. (but again, I have no recollection of anything filed with the BRA to redevelop that site)
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Correct. Those places aren't going anywhere as a result of this development.
 
Re: Pier 4

Does anyone know why this design was scrapped, it looks 100x better than the new version and would have been probably the nicest building in the whole seaport district if built. My guess would have to be cost....but come on we need development like this for the area to become world class as opposed to developments like waterside place. Not to mention the cladding in the new design looks strikingly simliar to waterside place other than the longer gaps in the precast in some spots. Either way in the end its a net gain for the seaport.

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Different developer proposal(?)

Also, it's possible that was an older design from when this was still planned to be an office building. About a year ago the developer realized it would be more economically feasible and easier to secure financing if they constructed residences or a hotel in the earliest phases here instead of an office tower. As we all know, the floor plans for an most office buildings are too big to just convert to housing. So that would explain the design change(s).
 
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Ironically, that looks like a shorter version of the new PWC HQ that just started across the street.
 
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