archBoston Presidential Poll 2012

For whom will you be voting on Tuesday?


  • Total voters
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Listen kid, this isn't China. Now that you're maybe done with college try to make a buck, feed a family and make payroll in the private sector, and get back to me.

Never lived in China. I'm not done with college but currently working part-time with a major financial firm in Boston (you can guess which one) after they extended me when my co-op ended. Supervisor is currently trying to get me extended through next semester and possibly a full-time position after I graduate. I help pay for my family and I do get paid and pay taxes. If you're going to belittle me, you can go eat shit.
 
If GOVT only focused spending on what your saying. That makes sense.
#1 Military to protect the borders not police the world.
#2 Police-Firefighters, Muni-workers based on cities & states
#3 Infrastructure--Outsource to Private contractors
#4 Education--should be on states or on community responsibility
#5 Healthcare---Not sure on healthcare.....Not my industry
#6 A completely revamped & reorganization of Federal depts SEC, FDA, IRS that had no relations with the private sector.
Good GOVT SPENDING---But mininal--There is a need for GOVT but limited.
I hope I answered your question.

Politicians telling us that Casinos are good for our society or spending our tax-money on specific insurance companies, banks, energy companies that continue to support their political base and then tell all the sheep they are creating jobs for the best interest of society is BULLSHIT.

These are the dreamers and innovators that create jobs & change society
Did Bill Gates receive public funding for revolutionize the world? Or did Steve Jobs get a bailout when Gates swindle his idea from Apple? Apple was on the brink of destruction when Microsoft took over the world with windows.

That is how I see it.

Yes you answered my question. I'm also on the fence on Casinos on whether or not they bring actual benefits (currently leaning on no as money spent there means less money spent elsewhere. Only beneficial if we can steal back the customers going to CT casino and/or attract visitors from out of state). Regarding energy, I would rather that tax money go into that instead of insurance as it may provide future benefits and get us off our dependency on oil.
 
Regarding energy, I would rather that tax money go into that instead of insurance as it may provide future benefits and get us off our dependency on oil.

When the private Oil companies start realizing they can make energy cheaper and more efficient those companies will start dumping billions in R&D and develop a better way of making energy cheaper and more profitable. Forget tax breaks for these corps. They deserve NONE.... Their is always a DREAMER that can change the industry without any GOVT intervention.

I wouldn't even be surprised if we have ways of generating free energy but the GOVT is holding it back because the powers to be do not want change at all costs.

The GOVT just wants to control everything because that is what gives them their power.
 
Never lived in China. I'm not done with college but currently working part-time with a major financial firm in Boston (you can guess which one) after they extended me when my co-op ended. Supervisor is currently trying to get me extended through next semester and possibly a full-time position after I graduate. I help pay for my family and I do get paid and pay taxes. If you're going to belittle me, you can go eat shit.

THat's a sweet job. Now go and try to build a job for someone else.
 
When the private Oil companies start realizing they can make energy cheaper and more efficient those companies will start dumping billions in R&D and develop a better way of making energy cheaper and more profitable. Forget tax breaks for these corps. They deserve NONE.... Their is always a DREAMER that can change the industry without any GOVT intervention.

I wouldn't even be surprised if we have ways of generating free energy but the GOVT is holding it back because the powers to be do not want change at all costs.

The GOVT just wants to control everything because that is what gives them their power.

This is somewhat true. I've heard cases about water powered cars being invented but the Government put a stop to it to protect oil companies. Well the good news for you then is that Obama is seeking to stop giving oil companies tax breaks.
 
THat's a sweet job. Now go and try to build a job for someone else.

How about you, then? What useful thing are you contributing to society? What jobs have you created? Who are you in charge of?

So far all you've done is bitched about how your pick lost and shit on everyone else who bothered responding to you in this thread.

Put up or shut up - let's see some names, dude.
 
Now go and try to build a job for someone else.

The culture war's over, buddy. Time to find a new talking point. Turns out the whole building thing line didn't go over well. Especially when used in a publicly funded stadium.
 
Maybe it's time to lock this thread.

Hey Bosdev, once I'm in a position where I'm given the power to hire someone, I'll make sure I will. Until then, enjoy grumbling like an old man.
 
Here's something simple:
If there are absolutely no government spending whatsoever (as in the government do not spend a single penny on anything at all), who pays for:
The military to protect our nation?
Healthcare to cure diseases and heal injuries?
Education?
Police and firefighters to protect the citizens?
Infrastructure?

Private companies pay for it in exchange for a fee from the individuals they serve.

If we're assuming *all* governments spend 0, and not our own, I'm not entirely sure we'd need a military at all. Just a police force.

We can very easily start with infrastructure. If anything needs to be privatized, it is all infrastructure.


EDIT: How did I end up on the same side with the incoherent messages of bosdevelopment, rifleman, and now kmp? :rolleyes:
 
Private companies pay for it in exchange for a fee from the individuals they serve.

If we're assuming *all* governments spend 0, and not our own, I'm not entirely sure we'd need a military at all. Just a police force.

We can very easily start with infrastructure. If anything needs to be privatized, it is all infrastructure.


EDIT: How did I end up on the same side with the incoherent messages of bosdevelopment, rifleman, and now kmp? :rolleyes:

A police force would not stop an invasion from a well-equiped army. Plus, how do you expect to convince everyone to pay their fair share when you already have taxpayers complaining that their money is not well spent? People from Texas constantly complains about their taxpayer money spent on the Big Dig (which is BS because we paid for most of it). How do you convince other people to pay for benefits that may not directly benefit them?
 
Private companies pay for it in exchange for a fee from the individuals they serve.

If we're assuming *all* governments spend 0, and not our own, I'm not entirely sure we'd need a military at all. Just a police force.

We can very easily start with infrastructure. If anything needs to be privatized, it is all infrastructure.


EDIT: How did I end up on the same side with the incoherent messages of bosdevelopment, rifleman, and now kmp? :rolleyes:

Private companies & individuals coming together to fund things that they cannot afford individually and have external benefits throughout society is EXACTLY WHAT GOV'T IS!
 
How about you, then? What useful thing are you contributing to society? What jobs have you created? Who are you in charge of?

So far all you've done is bitched about how your pick lost and shit on everyone else who bothered responding to you in this thread.

Put up or shut up - let's see some names, dude.

Ok:
I am an attorney with 3 employees: 2 attorneys and one half-time paralegal. I'm about to take down my shingle because I can't maintain my payroll week to week. My office regularly represents indigent clients facing evictions or criminal charges pro bono or with limited fees.I no longer take appointed CPCS cases because of the regulatory minutia and continuing education requirement. Most other small or solo attorneys my age (mid-30's) are in the same boat.

I do more to help people in my community on a Thursday mornings in housing court than most people will ever do. While most liberals do stupid shit like volunteer at the soup kitchen I keep roofs over people's heads and maintain their liberty for nothing or next to nothing... REGULARLY.
 
Maybe it's time to lock this thread.

Hey Bosdev, once I'm in a position where I'm given the power to hire someone, I'll make sure I will. Until then, enjoy grumbling like an old man.

"Once I'm in a position where im GIVEN the power to hire someone"

This is exactly what I'm talking about. BUILD SOMETHING YOURSELF. You likely never will and your attitude will accordingly never change.
 
The culture war's over, buddy. Time to find a new talking point. Turns out the whole building thing line didn't go over well. Especially when used in a publicly funded stadium.

What? This wasn't a talking point. I don't even know what a talking point is. WTF is a talking point.
 
"Once I'm in a position where im GIVEN the power to hire someone"

This is exactly what I'm talking about. BUILD SOMETHING YOURSELF. You likely never will and your attitude will accordingly never change.

so do you begrudge your employees for not building their own practice? Should the US just be a bunch of sole proprietorships, because people that work as part of a larger organization aren't "building anything"? We should probably tell engineers, factory workers, and everyone else that they aren't contributing to your standards.
 
so do you begrudge your employees for not building their own practice? Should the US just be a bunch of sole proprietorships, because people that work as part of a larger organization aren't "building anything"? We should probably tell engineers, factory workers, and everyone else that they aren't contributing to your standards.

I obviously do not begrudge my employees because they havent built a business. If it weren't for me, these people would be jobless. Unfortunately, they soon will be and telling them is going to be the hardest thing I've ever done. The world is operated by large entities and not everyone can create. However, the attitude of entitlement is what is destroying these people's jobs and choking out innovation and business creation.

My point in my prior comment is this: to be instructed by Kentxie, a college aged kid with no business experience (like granny warren), about business or the economy is laughable. And don't tell me about what you majored in. I was an econ major and I didnt know a thing about reality which includes paying taxes. I too, was once a bleeding heart, passionate, ignorant young man. Until you take risk and build something yourself, your waxing poetic about what the government's role should be carries little weight in my book. Simply put, people like kentxie have little or nothing to lose. To paraphrase George Will, the lowest 47% of income earners in this country pay zero taxes. Because of this, there is no incentive for this 47% to limit the size of government.
 
"Once I'm in a position where im GIVEN the power to hire someone"

This is exactly what I'm talking about. BUILD SOMETHING YOURSELF. You likely never will and your attitude will accordingly never change.

Say that to your employees and then see how much they would want to work with you after. The fact that you're failing to balance your payroll means you ineffective in allocating resource. At the current rate, you are looking at a failing business not able to rake enough revenue to cover your ass.

And no, your employees wouldn't be jobless if you weren't there. Most likely, they'll find another job elsewhere. You're disillusioned to think that you are the only law employer. In fact, while working at a law firm for two years, a few of our attorneys were snatched occasionally by competing firms. I won't be surprised if yours would too if you were to say that statement right in their face.

I have no business experience? I have around 3 years of experience already working in a financial firm. I've seen people fired and laid off. You know who is more disillusioned? You. You think owning a business is the only way to be successful. How much you want to bet there are millions of people who make more than you, more widely successful than you, even though they don't own a business?

If success is measured only the amount of assets you own then why didn't you become a stock trader? Stock traders probably make more than 10X the income you are currently making and yet, many of them do not own businesses or create jobs. In that regards, you look more like a failure who is having trouble adapting to the changing economic environment and your unchanging attitude provides further proof of someone who is unwilling to change with the time.

It's pathetic that you graduated as an economics major not knowing a thing about reality. Let me guess, you're one of those who are born into a decently wealthy family where you did not need to work during your studies. I've worked since high-school and learned to balance my budget on my own. I give myself 0 exemptions in taxes because I know that by being given a smaller amount of income now, I am less tempted to spend it on unnecessary things. I put my savings in multiple accounts besides my main account so that I have less to spend and have something to fall back on during hardship. I've diversified and developed my skills by working in different fields, from retail and customer services, to infrastructure, to finance, so that I can change when needed. I'm planning to take computer language courses because I know jobs for those are abundant even though I'm an econ major.

I understand it may be hard to change the type of business that your law firm takes on. For that, I will respond in kind. Tough shit. Maybe you should have thought ahead and went into another area of law. Maybe you should have decided to build you business on something else besides law. Many other law firms are not only recovering, they are expanding. Why isn't yours? That's the problem with hedging yourself to one political party. If you are as much as a genius as you're trying to make yourself out to be, you would have had a plan B. You may say that is difficult. Well, how come other law firms can pull themselves out of the financial crisis? If you're holding everyone to your standard, then you should hold yourself to it as well. I don't hedge my skills into one area or one plan. I seek to learn to use different programs and databases, to work at jobs where you may or may not interact with a client, just so I can go to another position if my position is eliminated.

Who knows, maybe I'll one day go into owning a business. Management simulation games are one of my favorite and while they are obviously not the same, the one thing I'll make sure is to have my business flat and flexible so that it can quickly adapt to the economic environment. But yeah, keep me updated on your law firm. If it makes it, then maybe the things you say are worth a grain of salt.

Oh here's a question: Why didn't you use any extra cash you had when business is good and put that into investment so that you have an alternative form of income for your firm?
 

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