Casey Overpass

clayville said:
Here are shots of the westbound Overpass on April 29, just after the creation of a crossover lane on the abutment.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10041103@N06/17345672346/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10041103@N06/17371628395/

Barriers were put in place to allow for demolition to begin:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10041103@N06/17183819258/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10041103@N06/17369668382/

Demolition of the abutment began on April 30th to create two wesbound surface lanes where the ramp at South St currently is:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10041103@N06/16749103214/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10041103@N06/17369663692/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10041103@N06/17183813418/

Progress has been proceeding incrementally since then. And today, MassDOT announced that the westbound overpass closes permanently on Saturday May 9th, and the eastbound side permanently on May 16th.
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I get an "adult content" warning when I try to connect to those images.
 
Hmmm... I just reset them all to 'safe' on flickr. Need to dust off my rusty HTML skillz, too...
 
So does the Westbound Casey CLOSE on May 9 or is May 9 the last day it's open?
 
FK4 said:
So does the Westbound Casey CLOSE on May 9 or is May 9 the last day it's open?
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went by there today - as of this morning the westbound entrance to the arborway was closed. the past few weeks traffic around Forest Hills has gotten a lot better, but I've also noticed there are a lot more people riding the bus. Now I'm wondering just how much of the traffic around forest hills is caused by people who COULD take the bus, but don't.
 
Probably a lot - ridership on the 39 is one-third of the final Arborway Line ridership, and half of what it was 20 years ago. Forest Hills and Green Street ridership have increased slightly during that time, but not enough to cover the difference. So there's a lot of potential transit riders waiting to be grabbed.
 
rinserepeat said:
went by there today - as of this morning the westbound entrance to the arborway was closed. the past few weeks traffic around Forest Hills has gotten a lot better, but I've also noticed there are a lot more people riding the bus. Now I'm wondering just how much of the traffic around forest hills is caused by people who COULD take the bus, but don't.
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Traffic will shift to other roads that don't have stop light intersections.
 
People don't optimize for 'number of stop lights', they optimize for convenience and trip time. And also laziness/lack of knowledge.
 
Convenience and trip time probably have a strong relation to number of stop lights....
 
^ But Casey will be gone. Replaced by a signalized intersection. There is no other route without traffic lights to get from Roxbury to Longwood. It's not as though Boston is brimming with redundant throughways (thankfully)
 
ant8904 said:
Convenience and trip time probably have a strong relation to number of stop lights....
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Would you rather deal with a few stop lights, or be stuck in traffic on a 'grade separated highway' that's overcrowded?

There's some kind of irrational fear of stop lights in this city, not sure why. A good network of streets, even with lights, can absorb much more traffic than even a grade separated highway.

http://urbankchoze.blogspot.com/2015/01/highways-and-boulevard-capacity-cost.html

Oh wait, that requires a 'good network of streets'. Well anyway.
 
Matthew said:
Would you rather deal with a few stop lights, or be stuck in traffic on a 'grade separated highway' that's overcrowded?

There's some kind of irrational fear of stop lights in this city, not sure why. A good network of streets, even with lights, can absorb much more traffic than even a grade separated highway.

http://urbankchoze.blogspot.com/2015/01/highways-and-boulevard-capacity-cost.html

Oh wait, that requires a 'good network of streets'. Well anyway.
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After reading what that. I would say probably because for most of the individuals taking that road, they aren't gaining time. Yes, the blog shows that a boulevard can carry more people, theoretically reducing congestion meanwhile a highway taking the same number or even a good amount less would just get congested - though that argument does get muddle that the 7500 served boulevard may not mean 7500 served highway.

But in the end, the context is still this Overpass. It's not so much would they rather deal with a few stop lights or be stuck in a congested highway. It's which has more convenience and shorter trip time. What I'm hearing, those drivers as they navigate the stop light, are not. But I guess that you mean by "good network of streets", which this is Boston, not NYC (not even sure that's the right context to say NYC).
 
There's some kind of irrational fear of stop lights in this city, not sure why. A good network of streets, even with lights, can absorb much more traffic than even a grade separated highway.
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The question in the first sentence is answered in the second. MassDot, BTD, etc never properly signalize streets. They don't even time the lights on the Greenway. Seriously, what the hell? This isn't some advanced hard to understand Space Age Tech.
 
underground said:
The question in the first sentence is answered in the second. MassDot, BTD, etc never properly signalize streets. They don't even time the lights on the Greenway. Seriously, what the hell? This isn't some advanced hard to understand Space Age Tech.
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Yeah which is why I added the last line.

But you know, 'organization before electronics before concrete'.

Should be a lot easier to fix signals than re-arrange our street network.
 
rinserepeat said:
how much you want to bet all those one-story shops along hyde park ave are going to replaced by something taller in the next 10 years.
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I woulda said the same about Davis Square in the early 90s... didn't really happen. There needs to be a motivation for the owners to redevelop or sell.
 
From a farewell Casey walk over yesterday with a few wonderful friends.
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BussesAin'tTrains said:
Like what?
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Rt 128, I-90. I-93.

Not saying that removing this overpass won't be good for the quality of life in these neighborhoods, but it is silly to think reducing capacity doesn't degrade the overall system even if just slightly. People are just going to avoid the route except for local travel and this has an impact on other routes.
 
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