Cities that are not Boston and may or may not be better.

Looks like graduation day at the Pine Street Inn.
 
Alll that techno dance stuff dosn't stand on it's own, it compliements dancing, but it's really just a generic dance beat. Nothing to really remember just move when its being played. Here is a song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iokAg6xQBwo
 
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no other genre of music just sounds as good, and that's what i care about. playing video games with it on, driving the car, dancing the night away, it will always brighten your mood

Are those really your only/main criteria for judging good music? Whether it amps you up to play video games or gets you to drive like its Tokyo Drift? And do you always want music to brighten your mood? Couldn't you achieve the same effect with recreational drugs?

And yes, this stuff might be good for dancing the night away, but again...that's a pretty limited activity. Plus, everything sounds better when you're wasted, and as we know from the beer goggles case, that's hardly a sound indicator of goodness.
 
^^I don't think so Tim....I'm about to shave, shower, and shit and I'm listening to EBM.
 
For those chirping about talent, music preference is not based on how much talent an artist have and even then its debatable on who has more talent because they use different equipments and musical instrument. While a guitarist can strum music to his own bpm and pace, a dj has to use his ears and listen carefully to mix two separate songs and match without causing any echoes. I know because my friend's a djs and so is my brother. I'm also a dj but in a different form in which I do not create my own song or play in clubs rather I combine music and make albums. It's not that easy because you have to always change the speed of songs to match, and vary the volume to make it meld together better. The more talented dj can mix music on stage without knowing beforehand how he will change the original song. It's more spontaneous than a guitarist or a pianist who already knows how he/she is going to play a song.

On another note (no pun intended) thread title should be changed again.
 
Kent has a point, but there really are some shit DJs out there who just press play on a glorified stereo system....such as:

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The knee jerk electronic music bashers may want to check this out
 
Are those really your only/main criteria for judging good music? Whether it amps you up to play video games or gets you to drive like its Tokyo Drift? And do you always want music to brighten your mood? Couldn't you achieve the same effect with recreational drugs?

And yes, this stuff might be good for dancing the night away, but again...that's a pretty limited activity. Plus, everything sounds better when you're wasted, and as we know from the beer goggles case, that's hardly a sound indicator of goodness.

Oh, just because I can do the same with recreational drugs means that I can't like it? Thanks for the info, I never knew that before.

It's not like I don't know anything about other genres of music, I play clarinet pretty well and while classical music may be interesting to listen intently to and envision a scene, it's not going to get you excited about anything. Same with any other genre, with the exceptions of hip-hop and electronic.
 
Yea definately, a dj who mashes two songs together has more skill and talent than a jazz artist. I mean anyone can just pick up an instrument and create something as amazing as Victor Whooten does, but to take two songs and mash them together, that takes years to figure out.
 
^^GW, you're forgetting that somebody actually produced the track so the DJ can mix it and play it at a party. All Kent is saying is that DJing is harder than you think. Also, some people in the dance community will argue that you're not really DJing unless you have a minimum of 15 different tracks in an hour set. Rock shows and Raves/Dance Parties are totally different beasts and they deserve different kinds of respect.
 
...and while classical music may be interesting to listen intently to and envision a scene, it's not going to get you excited about anything. Same with any other genre, with the exceptions of hip-hop and electronic.

Wait, are you serious? I may just be taking issue with your casual use of the second-person, but when I tried to listen to that shit you posted a few pages ago the only thing I was excited about was gouging my ears out. (And try to convince the hundreds of millions of, say, hard rock fans across the world that their music isn't exciting). Whatever, it's besides the point anyway...my whole point was to suggest that music has tons of value apart from its "mood-brightening" ability (...the success of which obviously varies with individual preferences...so it's stupid to even bicker over...face palm)

On the spontaneity point...Kent, come on. The entire basis of jazz music is improvisation. Developing that combination of chops and ingenuity that goes into being able not to sound like crap takes a lifetime. And obviously it's not just jazz. Anyone who's played an instrument knows something about improvisation. Any self-respecting rock band will take solos. (When people started playing 2 minute punk tunes with no improvisation, that was a deliberate choice against the establishment). So, yes, I can see why the spontaneity point is appealing for a DJ, but it's hardly unique.

And of course spontaneity isn't the only virtue. So, no, a concert pianist isn't concerned with spontaneity. Does that make it any easier to perform at the level of a concert pianist???
 
Thats fine, but I have a friend who is doing really good DJing out in San Diego. I've watched him do his thing many times. Had him explain it to me a couple of times. Its cool, but there is no way it requires as much talent as a good instrumentalist or vocalist.
 

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