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I'm pretty sure that we're overstating transit demand for Casino trips, just like people overstate the % of (American) people who'd take transit to the airport.

At airports, transit is demanded by the X0,000 airline/airport workers (and it works well for them and should be encouraged/expanded)

Same for Casinos: transit is for workers.
 
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Arlington said:
I'm pretty sure that we're overstating transit demand for Casino trips, just like people overstate the % of (American) people who'd take transit to the airport.

At airports, transit is demanded by the X0,000 airline/airport workers (and it works well for them and should be encouraged/expanded)

Same for Casinos: transit is for workers.
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And international visitors. Silver Line gets packed at Terminal E.
 
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Arlington said:
I'm pretty sure that we're overstating transit demand for Casino trips, just like people overstate the % of (American) people who'd take transit to the airport.

At airports, transit is demanded by the X0,000 airline/airport workers (and it works well for them and should be encouraged/expanded)

Same for Casinos: transit is for workers.
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"Transit is for workers", meaning for airport employees or regular commuters? I live in Philly part-time and the SEPTA Airport Line is always packed with airport/airline employees, more so than regular riders. Certainly an interesting statistic.

I was just reading the re-opened Rutherford Ave post from the Transit/Transportation section of this site, and surprised to see that the "surface" option is the preferred alternative. Of course the residents wants a beautiful community-oriented street, but we're loosing all of that excess capacity for the drivers who use Rutherford to commute in and out of Boston (not Charlestown) on a daily basis. It also complicates roadway access to the new casino. I know people say demand is being "over projected and over analyzed", but transportation options will dictate the success (or failure) of the casino in this extremely isolated part of the city.
 
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JeffDowntown said:
I have to believe this is the issue with crossing the dam.

You are on the wrong side of CR and T tracks at both ends of the dam. And you don't have easy access from the ends of the dam to either Wynn's property or Assembly Station.
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Not the wrong side of CR on the Everett side. You can walk under the CR tracks on the Everett side over to Wynn. There is already a plan for a walkway connecting along the river there under the bridge over to Wynn. And it isn't a long walk around from the Somerville side to Assembly.
 
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Riverworks said:
"Transit is for workers", meaning for airport employees or regular commuters? I live in Philly part-time and the SEPTA Airport Line is always packed with airport/airline employees, more so than regular riders. Certainly an interesting statistic.
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Airport transit is for Airport workers. Best example is SFO, where all studies said that BART ridership would have been maximized by locating the station at the employee entrance (United's huge maintenance base), but politicians looking for a marquee project put the station at the passenger terminal.

Transit at airport in CLE, PHL, ORD, MDW, BOS is also employee dominated. I think only DCA has travelers > employees.

The Casino isn't quite a big-enough employment center to merit a rail stop. On-street HOV lanes would be best for them (Wynn has acquired a parcel for an off-site employee parking...they'll arrive by shuttle bus and an employee entrance so as not to mix with visitors)

Riverworks said:
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I was just reading the re-opened Rutherford Ave post from the Transit/Transportation section of this site, and surprised to see that the "surface" option is the preferred alternative. Of course the residents wants a beautiful community-oriented street, but we're loosing all of that excess capacity for the drivers who use Rutherford to commute in and out of Boston (not Charlestown) on a daily basis. It also complicates roadway access to the new casino. I know people say demand is being "over projected and over analyzed", but transportation options will dictate the success (or failure) of the casino in this extremely isolated part of the city.
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Rutherford Ave from Boston to the Casino is about 2 miles. Putting it on a diet may lower average speed from 30mph to 20mph. Meaning your taxi/Lyft from the city gets 120 seconds longer (going from 4 minutes to 6 minutes), and probably got a bit more scenic. It's very hard to say that the Casino loses from a Rutherford road diet (and would win if it gets HOV lanes for limo/shuttle/taxi)

The logic of road diets is that for local car trips the road stays nearly as useful as ever (and gets way more useful for bike & ped), but that it is long-trip commuters who are deterred, since commuting 10 miles at 20mph is 30 mins (vs 20 mins at 30mph) and commuters are motivated to save that 10 (and hopefully switch to a less road-hungry mode)
 
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cburns said:
I believe Wynn mentioned a water shuttle/taxi from Logan to the Casino, still in the cards?
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Their last MassGaming presentation has a water shuttle service loop including Long Wharf and WTC in the Seaport. No Logan connection shown.

This is a private water shuttle service, funded by Wynn. $8.6 million up front for shuttles, $3.3 million per year for operation. Wharf at Wynn's Casino will also accommodate water taxis on call.

http://massgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/Wynn-Boston-Harbor-Presentation-3-22-16.pdf
 
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ant8904 said:
Isn't Curtatone still hostile to the idea of any connection between Assembly and the Casino?
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Curtatone will come around as soon as Wynn makes another deposit into his Swiss bank account.
 
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TomOfBoston said:
Curtatone will come around as soon as Wynn makes another deposit into his Swiss bank account.
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Unfortunately, Wynn isn't going to be pushing for this. The only connection to Wynn at this point is that hopefully Wynn generated state revenue can be used for improving the area.
 
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Making demolition plans, Wynn spends millions to clear out Everett neighborhood

Globe said:
Wynn Resorts has purchased 10 residential, commercial, and industrial properties to the east of the main road to the casino, often paying far beyond their assessed value to stake a claim to the shabby stretch and create a buffer between the casino and the surrounding neighborhood.

From September 2015 to August 2016, Wynn Resorts spent nearly $19.5 million on the 10 parcels near the casino, a Globe review of city records and corporate filings found. In one transaction, Wynn Resorts boughta single-family home with a small business building in the back, a property assessed at $193,800, for $900,000.In another, a home was assessed at $353,400 and went for $975,000.
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Wish I owned a place there lol. Good for Wynn for buying out the homeowners instead of using eminent domain.
 
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Yeah, it's great if own a place there. Lot's of renters in the area though. They're not so lucky.
 
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I'm no billionaire but why spend the money just to landscape the street? It's not like casino visitors will ever be walking down broadway.
 
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And they still have the power plant to contend with. I doubt even Wynn can buy them out.
 
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tangent said:
Unfortunately, Wynn isn't going to be pushing for this. The only connection to Wynn at this point is that hopefully Wynn generated state revenue can be used for improving the area.
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Winn is pushing for the bridge over to Somerville. They have a study in the works.
 
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617 said:
I'm no billionaire but why spend the money just to landscape the street? It's not like casino visitors will ever be walking down broadway.
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Everett will give Wynn anything he wants. I expect WYNN to buyout the entire side and redevelop the entire area with Beautiful Landscaping and more updated housing.

Don't fool yourself WYNN is thinking real big on this. And everything is about money
 
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falcon42 said:
Winn is pushing for the bridge over to Somerville. They have a study in the works.
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Road bridge or pedestrian only? Road would be great.
 
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Holy crap - I want to be 35 Mystic! Assessed for $194K and sold for $900K! And it's a complete dump - basically ready to fall down. That guy must have really held out, and he is not even on the side facing Broadway. Ugh, why can't those things happen to me ... ::sigh::

I am a little confused by the diagram, though. Has he already purchased other properties along Broadway closer to the site? It would be helpful to see a map of all the properties he has purchased to date. Anyone with spare time? ;)

By the time he is done fixing up the neighborhood the way he wants it, providing transportation, etc., he could've bought a shovel ready property closer to Boston for the same price. Maybe in the Seaport?
 
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FK4 said:
Road bridge or pedestrian only? Road would be great.
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No ped bridge. There are landing issues on Somerville side. not really the mayor's call since its MA DCR property and MBTA property.
 
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