Encore Boston Harbor Casino | 1 Broadway | Everett

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stick n move said:
Yea no mention of it on the website and im 90% sure I remember it being shot down because Everett didn't want the associated traffic.
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There is little or no "associated traffic" with a 1,000 capacity venue at a place this size. Unlike traditional venues were people arrive and depart at generally the same time, there would unquestionably be people going to the Wynn pre-show for dinner and pre/post show to gamble a bit. Nowhere near all 1,000 attendees arrive and leave at the same time in a setting like this and the traffic impact would be minimal or non-existent for a venue that size. And that doesn't even factor in the people who attend the show and stay for the night.
 
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Seriously, this looks like it was designed in the 90s or early 2000s... right? I'm not an architect but looking at this, it's like Wynn just pulled a design from a decade ago.
 
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The families that own property next to the site on the 99 are sitting on PRIME property for this destination casino.

I would not sell---start a bed & breakfast.
 
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TheRifleman said:
I would not sell---start a bed & breakfast.
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Not a bad idea. Maybe any potential B&B owners can give them cutsey, geographically themed names, IE the Tank Farm B&B, Mystic Power Station Inn, The Pension LNG, etc.
 
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BosDevelop said:
There is little or no "associated traffic" with a 1,000 capacity venue at a place this size. Unlike traditional venues were people arrive and depart at generally the same time, there would unquestionably be people going to the Wynn pre-show for dinner and pre/post show to gamble a bit. Nowhere near all 1,000 attendees arrive and leave at the same time in a setting like this and the traffic impact would be minimal or non-existent for a venue that size. And that doesn't even factor in the people who attend the show and stay for the night.
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1,000 would be way too small for boxing, MMA, concerts, wrestling, championship college sporting events, maybe even an award show- thatd be cool to be able to host one of these in Boston, thats when you've really hit the big leagues and it would be a cool change up. 1,000 seats is like the university hall at my school which I have classes in, I would say 5,000 minimum if they were serious about things like MMA pro fights and concerts. MMA fights are held at the garden.

I think it really depends for traffic. A friday night would be a much different scenario than a sunday night. Im not saying either way how much it really would affect traffic Im just stating that I thought I remember this being proposed initially and that was the reason it was shot down, not 100% on this though.

Heres 5,000 seats at Grand Canyon University. Not sure how much the floor seating adds. In the article they state that 5,000 seats is enough to fit 85% of touring acts. I think this would have been a huge asset to have for the city and for Wynn. This isn't too big overall but still holds a lot of people with room for expansion.

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Anyways basically water under the bridge now for another what could have been.
 
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I imagine that's the tower going up. Did not know that an indoor arena is also planned! :cool:
 
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It was removed from the plans awhile back there won't be any large indoor arena or event space.
 
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citylover94 said:
It was removed from the plans awhile back there won't be any large indoor arena or event space.
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Why not? WYNN could make this area what the Seaport should have been.
The entertainment district with real capital investment not giving away the land for peanuts on the taxpayers dime.

This Wynn project like it or not. Cleaned up the land that was utterly destroyed by Monsanto.

So I have to give him props for building this
 
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stick n move said:
Heres 5,000 seats at Grand Canyon University. Not sure how much the floor seating adds. In the article they state that 5,000 seats is enough to fit 85% of touring acts. I think this would have been a huge asset to have for the city and for Wynn. This isn't too big overall but still holds a lot of people with room for expansion.

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Anyways basically water under the bridge now for another what could have been.
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Boston already has several venues in this size range, though (Agannis, etc.), so I'm not sure we actually need another one.
 
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Lets see maybe because people in the area complained about how bad it would make traffic. Just like how you kept going on about how this would cause the traffic apocalypse not long ago.
 
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citylover94 said:
[The 5000 seat arena] was removed from the plans awhile back there won't be any large indoor arena or event space.
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TheRifleman said:
why not? WYNN could make this area what the Seaport should have been.
The entertainment district with real capital investment not giving away the land for peanuts on the taxpayers dime.
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WHY NOT? Seriously? Look in the mirror, dude.

The originally-proposed arena did not get built because of YOU and people like you who preferred to freak out about traffic, Traffic, TRAFFIC, demanding project reductions and compensation/offests for "community impacts" that you'd entirely imagined.

Instead of listening to voices here, at Wynn, and in public forums that were consistently saying that a 5,000 seat arena with soft-arrival and soft-departure (spread by pre-game and post-game gambling) was a net plus and a traffic non-factor (by contrast to TD Garden's 14,000 with a league-mandated hard start time).

Pure fear-mongering and traffic-phobe superstition and hand-wringing and pearl-clutching killed that arena. Period.

All we can hope is that after going without it for 5 years (and seeing that if you're in traffic you *are* traffic...a thing commuters do, not gamblers), that they include the arena in some future expansion.
 
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http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/09/wynn_boston_harbor_when_it_ope.html

I have to think that Wynn's ballroom/meeting space will be converted to nightclub space (plans for nightclubs were pretty much killed off as well due to community concerns) some time after the casino opens when the neighborhood has had a chance to see that the casino isn't as disastrous as many in the community were led to believe. And who's to say that a space holding up to 5000 people won't be built in the near future on neighboring property that Wynn now owns depending on how traffic patterns work out. Wynn has already gotten a waver on his liquor license to allow for alcohol to be served till 4am in the casino. Things change when there's money to be made.
 
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HenryAlan said:
Boston already has several venues in this size range, though (Agannis, etc.), so I'm not sure we actually need another one.
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No, Boston doesn't. Agganis is more than 50% larger than 5,000 capacity at over 7,000. Exactly what year round venues does Boston have for entertainment in the 5,000 capacity range?
 
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Arlington said:
WHY NOT? Seriously? Look in the mirror, dude.

The originally-proposed arena did not get built because of YOU and people like you who preferred to freak out about traffic, Traffic, TRAFFIC, demanding project reductions and compensation/offests for "community impacts" that you'd entirely imagined.

Instead of listening to voices here, at Wynn, and in public forums that were consistently saying that a 5,000 seat arena with soft-arrival and soft-departure (spread by pre-game and post-game gambling) was a net plus and a traffic non-factor (by contrast to TD Garden's 14,000 with a league-mandated hard start time).

Pure fear-mongering and traffic-phobe superstition and hand-wringing and pearl-clutching killed that arena. Period.

When was the last time the MBTA was really upgraded or expanded?

All we can hope is that after going without it for 5 years (and seeing that if you're in traffic you *are* traffic...a thing commuters do, not gamblers), that they include the arena in some future expansion.
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Traffic is a serious problem and yes I am still very concerned about WYNN development causing major traffic delays on the 93.

If our elected leaders had a clue about how important a strong infrastructure is and having a very efficient transit grid before building out billionaire dollar developments then we wouldn't have this problem.

You can learn this by playing SimCity for christ sake.

Cambridge traffic is a mess but at least you have the Redline buzzing through neighborhoods which gives you options.

What do we have in SEAPORT? the Silverline bus?
What will we have to connect to the casino? another bus?

I would rather Boston/Massachusetts build another expansion underground with more rapid hardrails running through city/state which would help everyone overall.
 
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Sim City is not good at time-of-day trip generation per land use, which is the key point of why the Arena is benign (being not-peaked at rush hour) whereas homes and offices are peaked at the AM/PM rush. The point remains that because you'd stopped your ears to time-of-day trip analysis, you and those like you killed a great project. Learn from this and be open to more data-driven traffic insights. You'll be happier and richer.
 
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TheRifleman said:
Traffic is a serious problem and yes I am still very concerned about WYNN development causing major traffic delays on the 93.

If our elected leaders had a clue about how important a strong infrastructure is and having a very efficient transit grid before building out billionaire dollar developments then we wouldn't have this problem.

You can learn this by playing SimCity for christ sake.

Cambridge traffic is a mess but at least you have the Redline buzzing through neighborhoods which gives you options.

What do we have in SEAPORT? the Silverline bus?
What will we have to connect to the casino? another bus?

I would rather Boston/Massachusetts build another expansion underground with more rapid hardrails running through city/state which would help everyone overall.
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Lol at using Sim City as an argument for real life. Like, it's a real mystery why the entire world isn't using nuclear energy by now since a power plant only costs $6000 to build! We should also put all of our heavy industry on the Canadian border to cut pollution in half. Who needs the EPA?
 
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