Fenway Center (One Kenmore) | Turnpike Parcel 7, Beacon Street | Fenway

[citydweller]

Just curious, but how does steel like this hold up (esp if not painted/maintained properly) above a heavily salted highway?

Better than concrete bridges.

 

[HenryAlan]

Absolutely incredible.

This is going to be so amazingly good for that stretch of Beacon St. It was always such a terrible dead zone between Kenmore Square and St. Mary's Street.

 

[Justbuildit]

This is going to be so amazingly good for that stretch of Beacon St. It was always such a terrible dead zone between Kenmore Square and St. Mary's Street.

From a bang-for-your-buck perspective these are the best developments in the city. Parcel 12 has already dampened the hostility of Mass Ave, and this is going to be transformative too. Really hoping this drives more demand or outside pressure for capping off the remaining parcels. No one should have to peer into the maw of an interstate while walking around normal city streets.

 

[HenryAlan]

From a bang-for-your-buck perspective these are the best developments in the city. Parcel 12 has already dampened the hostility of Mass Ave, and this is going to be transformative too. Really hoping this drives more demand or outside pressure for capping off the remaining parcels. No one should have to peer into the maw of an interstate while walking around normal city streets.

This one will especially make that argument, as the contrast on Brookline Ave. will be quite stark -- active street wall on one side, car exhaust canyon on the other. Hopefully that will be the next parcel developed, either by Rosenthal or perhaps by the Redsox. It would be the capstone for the incredible transformation of the Fenway/Kenmore neighborhood that we've witnessed over the past 20years.

 

[Equilibria]

This one will especially make that argument, as the contrast on Brookline Ave. will be quite stark -- active street wall on one side, car exhaust canyon on the other. Hopefully that will be the next parcel developed, either by Rosenthal or perhaps by the Redsox. It would be the capstone for the incredible transformation of the Fenway/Kenmore neighborhood that we've witnessed over the past 20years.

Yes, but... Parcel 12 is a much better-designed placemaking effort than this. Not that it won't make a huge difference, but Parcel 12 is something special.

In this neighborhood, I think it will be Fenway Corners that makes the biggest impact.

 

[HenryAlan]

The prospect of all of that coming together is very exciting. I sort of forgot about Fenway Corners in making that statement. It really is poised to become one of the most interesting neighborhoods in Boston.

 

[DAVE]

This one will especially make that argument, as the contrast on Brookline Ave. will be quite stark -- active street wall on one side, car exhaust canyon on the other. Hopefully that will be the next parcel developed, either by Rosenthal or perhaps by the Redsox. It would be the capstone for the incredible transformation of the Fenway/Kenmore neighborhood that we've witnessed over the past 20years.

Especially with how much more foot traffic the Brookline ave bridge sees

 

[Charlie_mta]

MassDOT could not have worked demolishing and rebuilding the overpass of the Pike as part of this overall projoect?

That would make too much sense.

 

[AndreyD]

 

[Java King]

Wow! It's actually happening!

 

[Java King]

Please electrify the Framingham/Worcester line so that beautiful new station doesn't become a diesel choke factory!

 

[cubbe8]

Please electrify the Framingham/Worcester line so that beautiful new station doesn't become a diesel choke factory!

Will the station be redone since it will be completed underground?

 

[stick n move]

Hopefully there will also be walls blocking the station from the highway due to car fumes and noise.

 

[The EGE]

Will the station be redone since it will be completed underground?

The station was designed from the beginning to be part of the development:

PATRICK-MURRAY ADMINISTRATION, CITY OF BOSTON BREAK GROUND ON YAWKEY STATION PROJECT | News | MBTA

Official website of the MBTA -- schedules, maps, and fare information for Greater Boston's public transportation system, including subway, commuter rail, bus routes, and boat lines.

www.mbta.com

 

[stick n move]

The station was designed from the beginning to be part of the development:

PATRICK-MURRAY ADMINISTRATION, CITY OF BOSTON BREAK GROUND ON YAWKEY STATION PROJECT | News | MBTA

Official website of the MBTA -- schedules, maps, and fare information for Greater Boston's public transportation system, including subway, commuter rail, bus routes, and boat lines.

www.mbta.com

Yup and from what I remember if you look at the light poles and canopies theyre placed on seemingly wayyy overbuilt concrete footings, but this is so they can be removed and the structural steel built on top of them to support the structure above. They were built ahead of time for the future structure, but in the mean time were used as bases for the light poles/canopies until funding/approvals etc opened up. Then when construction started they didnt have to rip up the station and drill piles everywhere, they only had to do that around the highway and in the median.

 

[AndreyD]

 

[Aprehensive_Words]

Could someone who's an actual engineer or architect answer a dumb question of mine?

All that rebar shows they're going to be building up those support columns even further. But since concrete shrinks when curing, you'd think it'd be impossible to pour after those decking beams go in and still have it bear weight from above, unless the (strange-seeming) game would be to shim some (steel?) plates in between the column and the beam.

So what does it seem like they're actually doing here? Fireproofing/crash-proofing? Precursor to a concrete wall between road and rail, and between different directions of the Pike?

 

[DrFreewind]

Could someone who's an actual engineer or architect answer a dumb question of mine?

All that rebar shows they're going to be building up those support columns even further. But since concrete shrinks when curing, you'd think it'd be impossible to pour after those decking beams go in and still have it bear weight from above, unless the (strange-seeming) game would be to shim some (steel?) plates in between the column and the beam.

So what does it seem like they're actually doing here? Fireproofing/crash-proofing? Precursor to a concrete wall between road and rail, and between different directions of the Pike?

Most likely the rebar shown is for a wall that will be installed between the highway and the tracks, it will not be supporting any structure above

 

[king_vibe]

Could someone who's an actual engineer or architect answer a dumb question of mine?

All that rebar shows they're going to be building up those support columns even further. But since concrete shrinks when curing, you'd think it'd be impossible to pour after those decking beams go in and still have it bear weight from above, unless the (strange-seeming) game would be to shim some (steel?) plates in between the column and the beam.

So what does it seem like they're actually doing here? Fireproofing/crash-proofing? Precursor to a concrete wall between road and rail, and between different directions of the Pike?

You are correct: This concrete does not look like it will be supporting anything - it is probably encasement for fire protection around the columns. You can see that the steel columns have headed shear studs to mechanically bond to the concrete once it's cast.

 

[AndreyD]