Green Line Extension to Medford & Union Sq

Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

MassDOT has posted new photos to there flickr. https://www.flickr.com/photos/42009447@N05/?saved=1

What it shows is... construction continues on Retaining walls, drainage in Winchester Street and bridge painting. Also shows demolition has finally began at 21 Water Street


The work on Harvard @ Winchester is really quite extensive. I knew they'd expanded the contract there based on what they found (and are essentially doing not just the bridge, but the full, new extra CR approaches for a thousand feet on either side).

There's so much progress there on such a big "gating" issue that, it makes me want to propose going to College Ave as its own phase and then going back to do Gilman, Lowell & Ball as "infill" ;-)
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Green line extension cost estimate goes up to $2 billion, though Davey says he expects the actual cost to be $1.6 billion (seems they are padding the cost in case of unexpected overruns).

From http://www.wbur.org/2014/09/13/green-line-extension-cost-rises-to-2-billion

Green Line Extension Cost Rises To $2 Billion
By Andy Metzger
September 13, 2014

BOSTON — The anticipated cost of the roughly 4.5-mile Green Line extension has increased from $1.4 billion to nearly $2 billion with an anticipation that federal dollars will pay for half the construction.

Transit officials discussed the new bottom-line at a meeting this week, and Transportation Secretary Rich Davey told the News Service on Friday that the new cost estimate includes a “budgetary cushion” and additions to the project’s scope.

“I’m thinking it will be more along the lines of $1.6 billion,” said Davey, who said Federal Transit Administration officials sought the increased figure. The FTA is considering funding half the project through a New Starts grant, and Davey said they suggested more flexibility on the cost.

The long-awaited Green Line Extension plans to bring the trolley from its terminus in East Cambridge out through Somerville to Medford. City officials and activists have clamored for the project, saying it was required as mitigation for the Big Dig highway project that routed Interstate 93 beneath Boston.

MassDOT officials next week will present proposed changes to the Transportation Board, which meets Wednesday at noon.

Davey said the scope of the project now includes a community path, which state officials announced in April, saying it would cost $39 million. The completed community path would form a link for cyclists and walkers between the Minuteman Bikeway in Arlington and the new Lechmere Station.

Davey also said engineers determined more work would need to be done on the Green Line viaduct that leads into Lechmere, driving supports deeper into the ground. The viaduct was built in 1910, he said.

In addition, design contractor AECOM/HNTB would take a larger role overseeing construction, increasing its payment from $70 million to $114 million, though transit officials believe the increased attention will reduce overall costs.

The new cost includes 30 percent in contingency, which a Massachusetts Department of Transportation spokeswoman said was added in the spring as part of an agreement with the FTA on a project budget. The agreement with the FTA calls for a June 2021 completion date, but transit officials are targeting the service to begin in the second half of 2020.

In response to a lawsuit by the Conservation Law Foundation, Gov. Mitt Romney’s administration agreed to complete the project by Dec. 31, 2014. Davey said the state has already begun some “modest” construction on bridges and has begun real estate negotiations for obtaining property along the corridor.

Davey said he hopes the FTA would make a determination on its New Starts grant application “by the end of the year.”

Other additions to the contract include plans to build new drainage for the Miller’s River, which was buried years ago and causes flooding issues in Somerville’s Union Square during rainstorms. Some station platforms will also be lengthened to account for longer, four-car trains, according to the MBTA.

While the number $1.3 billion has been used to quantify the cost of the Green Line Extension project, Davey said internally MassDOT officials have used $1.4 billion, which includes the cost of new trolleys. Somerville received the first new subway station in 27 years in August with the opening of an Orange Line stop.

According to the MBTA, the project team has encountered 500 “utility conflicts” along the corridor.

The Green Line will be a major transit expansion on a scale unseen in metro Boston in decades. Davey said the 2013 tax increases enabled the project to move forward. Other projects in the state’s infrastructure pipeline are an extension of the Silver Line, a bus service, to Chelsea, the expansion of South Station and an extension of the commuter rail through Taunton, out to New Bedford and Fall River.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Sounds like they're tacking maintenance work on the old structures into the bill for the GLX.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Sounds like they're tacking maintenance work on the old structures into the bill for the GLX.
Sounds to me like an upgrade: If they really are building for 4-car trains all around, that's quite a lot of "new" weight if two2 4-car trains pass on the viaduct, instead of two 2-car ones.

If it is the D that's going to College Ave, 4-car trains make a lot of sense as a standard D-branch feature (no street running, anywhere) and potentially very heavy ridership all out the new branch.
 
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I suppose. It is good planning for the future, I agree. Not sure what they do with Boylston, but 4-car trains might very well be necessary for at least some portion of the system in the foreseeable future. Especially after they get those power upgrades done.

What's next, they're going to roll the power upgrades into the GLX too?
 
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Sounds like they're tacking maintenance work on the old structures into the bill for the GLX.

They will actually be tearing down the old structure from Land Blvd to Lechmere in order to shift the alignment slightly to the east towards the new station. The quote from the article makes it sound like they are rehabbing the structure, but it will be a tear down/build new. That is why the line will have to be shut down from North Station to Lechmere for months before the new line opens. They have to demolish the existing structure and build the new one close to but not quite on the same alignment as the old.

There is also a weight restriction on the present structure in that stretch, no three car trains, and no more than one train in each direction on the structure in that segment.
 
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I suppose. It is good planning for the future, I agree. Not sure what they do with Boylston, but 4-car trains might very well be necessary for at least some portion of the system in the foreseeable future. Especially after they get those power upgrades done.

What's next, they're going to roll the power upgrades into the GLX too?

The Green Line got a lot of power upgrade work during the Type 8 rollout, and a brand new substation in the North Station basement went online when they relocated it underground. So it's not an excessive amount of power work to provision for 4-car trains, since the existing system is good for a decent amount of 3-car trains without excessive strain. The D is years behind schedule for some major trackbed and cable rebuild work which will probably do some of the provisioning work, and the old underground trunkline power cable on the ex- A-line route between Watertown Carhouse and Packards Corner is also overdue for replacement to bolster the power reliability on the B and 71. So having refreshed cables helps with the resiliency at the Kenmore/Riverside/Reservoir end.

I think the bigger issue for power is hitting the threshold for universal 3-car trains...not getting 1 line up to 4-car. So long as there are still too many B platforms too short for triplets to run in non-awkward fashion they're going to have a tough time running 3-car trains often enough on enough branches to make a tangible difference...and the B needs it way worse than the C or E. They've got to overturn a lot more platforms to ADA and platform lengthenings. At least to the point where the 3-cars overspilling a 2-car platform fugly balancing act is limited to just the handful of stops impossible to reconfigure. If it's limited to just that handful they're fine for full-time triplet ops, but as long as there's a backlog of lengthenable ones they haven't touched it's going to place limits on how often they can run.


As for 4-car platforms, I would think the most busywork they have to do for that is going to be plowing through the non-ADA stops on the D to get those ready. I don't know if any Central Subway stops other than Boylston are too short. If it's limited to just Boylston they can do the fugly overspill without much schedule penalty. It would maybe help if they security cammed the blind spots at the far ends of the platforms, re-fenced around those areas to restrict unauthorized access, and spiffed them up to make the platform extensions safe for revenue use. It's not a lot of space (esp. when passing around the stairs), but relatively few people would be using the extreme-front and extreme-rear doors at that station on a 4-car, and they have easier means of providing security in the blind spots these days vs. before. Depends on how far short that station falls on length. If it's within a few feet of fitting all doors on a 4-car without compromises, it is probably worth the effort to use every inch of extra platform they can grab...sub-ideal roominess of the egress paths and all.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

I was at the GLX informational meeting at the Somerville Holiday Inn, and asked about freight system changes. What I was told is that during construction, PAR is going to come in via the Wildcat Branch and the Haverhill Line (I guess they'd rather have to do a reverse move up the Wildcat than rebuild the south leg of the Lowell Junction wye), and part of the project will involve rebuilding the Cobble Hill track. The person I talked to only mentioned service to Boston Sand and Gravel and didn't mention anything out in Everett, or where they'd store trains. But it was pretty clear that they've been working very closely with CSX and PAR throughout the planning process, so I think it's pretty unlikely anyone's getting blindsided here.

Another interesting detail is that they're going to have to do weekend closures of the Fitchburg Line in order to shift it to the south and rebuild Swift Interlocking, and they're timing it so they can piggyback on the already-planned closures to tie in the new double tracking out in Acton and Littleton.
 
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PAR freights come out of Lawrence, then down the Wildcat to Somerville, so
that statement is uninformed. Unless they plan on diverting Somerville or
Salem/Everett freight via the Reading Line during GLXcess construction.

The Cobblehill Track referred to is actually the old Yard 9/10 leads.

As far as working closely with CSX or PAR or commuter rail regarding
the Swift Interlocking situation, the GLX folks don't have much of a clue.
They originally wanted to shut the Grand Jct Branch down for a year and
didn't see a problem with detours via Ayer/Worcester. After all, they worked
soooo well during the emergency closures account of the Charles River Bridges.
Thank God commuter rail didn't get pushed around on that one. One small
victory, but the losses to passenger and freight operations for this project
are too numerous.

Dave
 
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Yeah, this whole process has been a clusterfuck. And that spokesflak is very ill-informed. I'll trust what the commuter rail and Pan Am employees say about this regularly and loudly on RR.net: slow...motion...train...wreck. Unless the top engineers are working on this and there's simply a communication problem on the chain of command, this is careening towards a nasty dispute that's going to force cost-bloating changes to the design.

-- Norfolk Southern (CSX's direct national competitor) is the other big player here, since they own 50% of the Pan Am mainline from New York to Ayer and are investing big in New England. While Boston is not their territory, Pan Am has to live up to its end of the bargain and develop more business to/from Ayer for Norfolk Southern to move nationwide. Kneecap Somerville access and introduce an artificial ceiling on how much PAR can develop in Everett, in Peabody, and longer-term in Eastie and possibly Charlestown...and NS is going to get very angry. NS is like CSX in that they are so huge and cutthroat that they crap bigger'n MassDOT and have ample means of fucking with passenger traffic on the Fitchburg Line and Conn River Line--or, simply dis-investing in Massachusetts freight--if they feel like they're being trampled upon by local yokels. GLX needs to tread carefully even with them an indirect presence, because they don't screw around. And the working relationship with them so far has been very good, and not something the state would ever want to throw away.

-- The Reading Line does not have the clearances to handle the freight that comes into Boston. Height restrictions and width restrictions. That's why it's no longer used for thru freight except as a backup route, and why neither of the customers on the tiny Medford Branch have taken a delivery in over 4 years (the big-size boxcars and refrigerator cars they need don't fit). Total nonstarter to expect they're going to be able to use it full-time. And the residents in Reading, Wakefield, and Melrose who very closely abut the tracks are going to complain loudly.

-- The inner Fitchburg Line no longer can handle wide freights because of the new full-high platforms at Littleton and South Acton, it's got height limitations (not as much as Reading, but enough to limit future growth), it's got a lot of grade crossings where slower freight is going to keep the gates down a lot longer than passenger trains, and the NIMBY's in the posh bedroom communities are going to fight renewed freight traffic with Satan's fury. It also can't take Lawrence-originating jobs. Lawrence is where the trains come from because it's a sorting yard where freight trains are broken up then blocked together in the correct car order for the order in which they serve local customers. Sorting is space-intensive work and the big yards in Ayer don't have room to do that; Ayer takes the long-distance loads. It's an analogue between CSX in Worcester (long-distance/intermodal) and Framingham (sorting). So it's tone-deaf of GLX to treat it like a yard is a yard is a yard. That's not how freight works.

Fitchburg isn't an option for except the CSX Grand Junction jobs that only use several hundred feet of it once a day.

-- Lowell is a protected wide clearance route, tall enough to take modified low-rider autoracks, has just those two Medford crossings to navigate and is by far the safest and least invasive of the 3 routes, is a brisk trip so they slip those daytime jobs between commuter slots with no interference, is under-capacity and can take a lot more traffic than it currently does, already has lots of local freight all points north of Winchester Ctr., and is well-buffered by vegetation for minimal inconvenience to abutters (except for Winchester Ctr. where people with nothing better to do with their time bitch endlessly about the overnight freights). Why that one is being fucked with is bonkers. If anything Reading and inner-Fitchburg are the disposable ones nobody will complain about.

-- This runs roughshod over MassDOT's own Freight Plan. That document couldn't spell out more succinctly what the state's priorities are for freight, where the high-return public investment is, and where the growth that puts more revenue into the state's coffers comes from. Did these people even read it? Are they taking their cues from the South Coast Rail Task Force which has done little but shit all over the freight the state wants to develop on the South Coast? Secretary Davey: wasn't the whole point of the MassDOT mothership reorganization to get more coordination between sub-agencies and fiefdoms that either don't talk to each other or actively fight with each other? This is on you.

-- This runs roughshod over Massport's seaport plans, also spelled out to the nines. After they're done with Southie they want to get more freight rail to Charlestown and Eastie, which currently have tracks but no traffic. And to segment the ports by purpose: Southie = containers, Charlestown = autos, Quincy = tankers, Eastie = fuel, Everett = produce, raw materials, and anything that doesn't fit with the others. Yo, MassDOT mothership...where's the coordination?

-- Everett Terminal, unlike the others owned by Massport, is privately owned. With a unique situation in that TWO freight rail carriers serve it. If any of those stakeholders starts to do some lawyering-up saber-rattling...or start a swarm of lawyering-up...this will get out-of-hand in a hurry. Multiple private entities...and a very defensive STEP worried about more delays opening up another battle front outside its own Somerville-Medford jurisdiction.




Get on the same page, people. That's the state's own well-laid plans for growing freight revenue that are getting messed with because one hand won't talk to the other. And a pandora's box of private interests with heft, NIMBY's, and outer suburban pols way outside the GLX project scope who are going to start a stampede if they don't fix this. Not to mention larding utterly pointless extra $$$ onto an already decade-late and over-budget project if they have to make a reactive design change instead of a proactive change. This is so asinine and preventable.
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

I did some digging through the documents on the GLX website to see how the Wiley Track issue factored into their decision-making. From the 2009 Additional Maintenance Facility Alternatives Analysis:

The main impact to freight operations would be the use of Yard 8 for Green Line storage and maintenance. Currently, Pan Am Railways has two tracks in the yard: one through track and one storage track. Pan Am Railways freight trains coming down the MBTA Lowell Line pass through Yard 8, occasionally temporarily storing freight cars in the Yard. If Yard 8 were dedicated to the Green Line, it would still be possible for Pan Am Railways to access the Boston area and to store freight cars in other nearby locations. The loss of Yard 8 also means that the Wiley Track between Yard 8 and the “Valley Tracks” would be abandoned. As discussed with Sid Culliford, Senior Vice President for Operations of Pan Am Railways, freight trains could simply be diverted from Yard 8 via a reconstructed Yard 10 lead (a seldom used track that runs adjacent to New Washington Street).

The Green Line Extension project would assume reconstruction of the Yard 10 lead track, allowing Pan Am Railways freight operations to continue in a manner acceptable to Pan Am Railways and with only a minor deviation from the route utilized today.

Note that this is in reference to the Yard 8 location, which is where they originally wanted to put it. So you can't blame this on the Brickbottom people. :)

Looking at the alternatives they considered, about the only place they could have put the maintenance facility without having to cut that track would have been the area between BET and the North Point development. One of the many reasons they rejected that location was because it would have precluded a North-South Rail Link portal for the Fitchburg Line, in case they ever actually build that.

If NS yells at them about this, which I'm skeptical of given the above, all the T has to say is "OK, you pay for it. That includes the Federal funding we're going to lose for making a huge unexpected design change this far along in the process, all the mitigation we're going to have to pay for delaying the project another two years, on top of the additional design and construction costs."
 
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That was 2009. I think PAR has come to realize that punting on Yard 8
access hurt's them in the future. The Yard 10 alternative is somewhat
of a joke considering it has two crossings and the inability to directly
go out the Eastern Route mainline. Plus where would store "hold cars"
or pickups. No one has thought much about that. Your not going to get
much of a siding between Mystic Jct and Cobblehill Road.

Oh I can blame Brickbottom all I want in regards to the MW facility, since they
cried the loudest about that. Just throw away MS Walker and its jobs. Doesn't
seem to bother Somerville either. Pretty sad. My experience with Brickbottom
goes way back ever since they scammed it into a so-called residential district.

As I've mentioned for years on Railroad.Net before North Point and GLX, there
was a blueprint hanging on the wall that had expansion of the current BET
layover yard (Yard 14) to 9 tracks, kicking out the Fitchburg mainline around it
as it does presently, moving Lechmere station to the Water Street area and a
Green Line MW facility in old Yard 7.

I get the North Point project, though I don't have to like. I get GLXcess, but
its ignorance of the impact on commuter rail (mostly) and freight as designed
is disheartening.

Dave
 
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Enh, I don't see it being a big problem. They can go up the north leg of they wye at the end of the Yard 10 lead and either store cars on the tracks on the west side of Sullivan Station (where the T stores ballast cars sometimes) or back down onto the track the Wiley Track is being cut off from (that's the Fourth Iron, right?). The latter makes more sense because they can then access the Eastern Route. (I'm assuming here that the track layout depicted by Google Maps is accurate.)
 
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Enh, I don't see it being a big problem. They can go up the north leg of they wye at the end of the Yard 10 lead and either store cars on the tracks on the west side of Sullivan Station (where the T stores ballast cars sometimes) or back down onto the track the Wiley Track is being cut off from (that's the Fourth Iron, right?). The latter makes more sense because they can then access the Eastern Route. (I'm assuming here that the track layout depicted by Google Maps is accurate.)

Yeesh...that's going to make a goddamn mess of things to have to do reverse moves. LA-1 runs to Everett with 1 locomotive. It's going to be excruciating to do a backup move right in the nerve center of the northside train universe if they have to detach the locomotive and runaround the freight cars to nudge them into position, then runaround again. That kind of time-consuming fumbling around is going to foul the living crap out of commuter rail and moves in/out of BET that supply the commuter rail. And if perpetually power-short Pan Am has to run double-ended locomotives to get the hell out of there on a tight time limit, it creates its own loco-shuffling mess inside Everett Terminal when they're unloading and makes it harder to get back home on-time without fouling still more commuter rail slots. What's going to be first commuter rail casualty from all that klutziness? Why...those magical DMU headways to Lynn and Woburn. Fan-tastic!



When Pan Am sold its life away in this GLX horse-trading that was in the bad old days under the prior management when their traffic was in a one-way decline and the corporate office was distracted by side interests like real estate and their Northpoint pet project (they even started a new boutique "Pan Am" airline that mercifully got put out of its misery a few years ago). The big Norfolk Southern deal whipped their asses into focus and they've been charging back over the last 5 years under the new regime with a charm offensive to win back freight business. Yes...Pan Am created their own problem here in Brickbottom by signing that terrible GLX deal giving GLX carte blanche if the MS Walker site got chosen as final site. But in the 6 years since they brainfarted that one away the state's invested a ton of public money in Pan Am's freight turnaround with the whole Patriot Corridor and Knowledge Corridor projects. And done active brokering for the Norfolk Southern partnership. It was voluntary action by MassDOT to embed themselves with all these parties and stake its cash spigot to the continued growth of Pan Am freight. Willingly embed themselves after the GLX agreement was signed. They own this FUBAR, too.




Seriously...do any of these MassDOT sub-fiefdoms talk to each other at all? It shits all over northside commuter rail and the T's own (very expensive) service expansion plans. It shits all over the state's own (very expensive) freight and port investments. And drags more private parties into the vortex than it did in 2008. Who's running this clown show?
 
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Seriously...do any of these MassDOT sub-fiefdoms talk to each other at all? It shits all over northside commuter rail and the T's own (very expensive) service expansion plans. It shits all over the state's own (very expensive) freight and port investments. And drags more private parties into the vortex than it did in 2008. Who's running this clown show?

The MBTA does not handle the Knowledge Corridor and Patriot Corridor, as you know. That's the MassDOT Rail and Transit Division, under which the MBTA nominally resides.

I'm not actually clear on whether the MBTA is a true subsidiary of MassDOT even under the current law. It is definitely not a true subsidiary of Rail and Transit. Within the Department, it is essentially treated as one of two Divisions that matter, along with Highways.
 
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The MBTA does not handle the Knowledge Corridor and Patriot Corridor, as you know. That's the MassDOT Rail and Transit Division, under which the MBTA nominally resides.

I'm not actually clear on whether the MBTA is a true subsidiary of MassDOT even under the current law. It is definitely not a true subsidiary of Rail and Transit. Within the Department, it is essentially treated as one of two Divisions that matter, along with Highways.

Umm...the Fitchburg Improvements project and Patriot Corridor project overlap in 20 miles of MBTA territory from Wachusett to Willows Jct. in Ayer, if we're going to be splitting hairs that finely. There is significant amount of T capital budget mutually supporting the state freight investment most directly kneecapped by this Brickbottom stupidity. And the T's engineering department is working the Knowledge Corridor because MassDOT Rail and Transit has no native engineering staff of its own. T engineers doing the design, and Norfolk Southern crews doing the construction. The T's annual budget gets a 1:1 reimbursement under the "state-sponsored projects" line item for time and labor spent outside the district.


True subsidiary or de facto subsidiary, they are under the thumb of Secretary Davey and the MassDOT mothership. And they are intimately involved knee-deep in all these projects and with ALL of the players. Including the new big kid on the block, Norfolk Southern. There are no walled gardens here so tall that these kinds of stupid little communication cock-ups should be happening all the damn time with one intra-agency fiefdom lighting another intra-agency fiefdom's money on fire. This is rinky-dink even by the standards of Massachusetts bureaucracy.
 
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Yeesh...that's going to make a goddamn mess of things to have to do reverse moves. LA-1 runs to Everett with 1 locomotive. It's going to be excruciating to do a backup move right in the nerve center of the northside train universe if they have to detach the locomotive and runaround the freight cars to nudge them into position, then runaround again. That kind of time-consuming fumbling around is going to foul the living crap out of commuter rail and moves in/out of BET that supply the commuter rail.

Um, what? I'm not an expert on this, but I've never had the impression backing up a train was that big a deal. You don't have to run around the train, just send a guy back there with a radio. And none of this is on commuter rail territory to begin with, other than the grade crossing of BET's driveway. :)

I mean, there's plenty to complain about with regard to lack of coordination around this project, starting with the half-dozen brand-new bridges they're going to have to tear down and rebuild because they weren't built wide enough for the GLX when it was already an active project. I don't think this issue is nearly as big a deal as you're making it sound like.
 
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Um, what? I'm not an expert on this, but I've never had the impression backing up a train was that big a deal. You don't have to run around the train, just send a guy back there with a radio. And none of this is on commuter rail territory to begin with, other than the grade crossing of BET's driveway. :)

I mean, there's plenty to complain about with regard to lack of coordination around this project, starting with the half-dozen brand-new bridges they're going to have to tear down and rebuild because they weren't built wide enough for the GLX when it was already an active project. I don't think this issue is nearly as big a deal as you're making it sound like.

Look, I'm getting my cues here from the actual Pan Am and MBTA commuter rail employees who've been hammering this issue loud and often on RR.net for the past 4 years on the GLX thread and various freight threads in the Pan Am forum. The CR employees in particular don't usually bark like that when they know management reads their posts, but the whole CR division including management feel like they're getting trampled on with this. Even that moderator over there doesn't mince words about this being really poorly managed.

I'll defer to Dave on the blow-by-blow ops details since he actually works there at commuter rail ground zero and knows the technical intricacies of yard moves in ways that are nowhere near my strong suit as a lowly outside punter.

But there's warring factions inside the MBTA about this, warring factions inside MassDOT, one Pan Am generation of management vs. another, too many local pols/Brickbottom NIMBY's/STEP intrusions making a fine mess of things, and new stakeholders getting sucked into the mix the further along it goes unresolved (freight customers, the privately-owned terminal, Norfolk Southern, every suburban NIMBY who will fight any and all renewed freight traffic detouring down from the Reading or Littleton alternate routes, and so on).

Unlike the rest of the project where all oars are more or less pulling in the same direction the maint facility siting process has been completely rudderless. No one is in charge. The stakeholders are at odds with each other. The track design for it isn't even final, so every detail still being doodled in AutoCAD is going to be fought over by every party with a grievance or agenda (and I expect the same Brickbottomites who were such screamers in the initial scoping are going to be back out in force...simply because they can). And no one is playing the decider to move it all forward.



What this is going to do is force delays, delays, more delays and drive the price up for this carhouse up even more. They can only open that Phase I starter service of Union + a couple of stops outbound on the Medford Branch without the carhouse. Lowell St., Ball Sq., College Ave...North Station and Riverside can't supply the steel bodies to get service out there without stretching downtown GL schedule margins thin to the point of systemic collapse. If Brickbottom slips another 2 or 3 years because of this cripple fight, what can the construction workers outbound in Somerville and Medford do besides finish the grading and utility work to College Ave.? Pour some station foundations and do some minor fussing around while they stare at their watches? They're not laying track and wires and finishing headhouses and station facilities on those Phase II stops until they know when and if they can get service out there.


That's where failing to mediate this is going to become everyone's very big and very expensive problem. The Transportation Secretary's level at MassDOT is the only spot on Olympus that has touches EVERY stakeholder's money around this site. Where is that guy and his people in all this?
 
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Coming down the Yard 9/10 lead from Mystic Jct to go out the Eastern Route
would involve:
1) Running around your train between Cobblehill Road and Mystic PROVIDED
you have not stored cars there already.
So you runaround your train, then its a semi-long shove to Third Ave crossing,
throw the crossovers on the west side of the crossing and shove towards the
Willey Track. BUT wait a minute - The Willey Track is going away, so now the
MBTA will have to build a connection to the 4th Iron instead.
2) The 4th Iron between Swift and FX(Third Ave) is our only through track for
work trains, CSX, other moves like Amtrak Extras,etc. PROVIDED this doesn't
get messed up by the GLX MW facility footprint because the nasty initial plan
was to leave Commuter Rail with only ONE track between FX and Swift!

3) Commuter Rail has a serious capacity issue at BET. Worse for work train equipment.
The Conrail or B&A east and westbound tracks are our storage tracks. We are
losing the Paint Track. Wonder why those gondolas/sidedumps of old ties were
placed on the Tuttle Track by BS&G? No room! The Cut Yard is usually packed
with stuff to begin with (the small yard off the Fitchburg Mainline across from
BET's west end). As far as the 3rd & 4th Iron tracks east of FX along side
Sullivan Square, their fate remains unclear. We have been stashing MW cars
there off and on.
4) All that MW material within the wye at FX (south of Innerbelt) is going to have
to move somewhere. Where? Rumor is North Billerica! Really? Nothing like driving
20 miles to get material for the Terminal District. Hopefully this is just railroad
gossip.

How it currently works for PAR into Somerville is that DOBO and LA2 come into
Yard 8 via the crossovers at Walnut St crossover. Both come down the Willey
Track to 3rd Ave (FX). DOBO backs down Mainline 2 to switch BS&G. LA2 will
usually leave Everett & Peabody cars on the runaround off the Willey for LA4.
LA4 (whose crew taxis from Lawrence to Somerville) grabs those inbounds off
LA-2 drop and goes about their business. When they return to Somerville, LA4
leaves its outbound cars at 3rd Ave on the 3rd Iron (that's the cut of cars you
see under the Lowell mainline "High Line Bridge").

Dave
 
Re: Green Line to Medford to start in 2011

Oh, FFS!!!!
October 04, 2014
Green Line station designs almost final, opening dates slip

The Green Line Extension Working Group met on Thursday and heard some important updates on the project. The good news is that the station designs for Lechmere, Washington St, and Union Square (referred to as Phase 2) are at 90%, and the other stations (Phase 4) are at 60% design.

The bad news is that the schedule has slipped a bit from earlier promises. What we're hearing now:


Phase 2 early construction is now approved to proceed.
Nov 2015: Phase 4 construction begins.
Dec 2017: Lechmere, Washington St, and Union Square stations open. (Formerly estimated for 2016 or early 2017.)
Summer 2020: Other stations open. (Formerly estimated for 2019.)
There was also discussion about the overall cost estimate, sustainability of the project, and Tufts development. Hop over to MGNA for detailed meeting notes.

http://www.somervillestep.org/2014/10/green_line_stat.html
 

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