MA Casino Developments

I will argue against her stance that their traffic plan underestimates anything.
Every casino related traffic study and follow up evidence I have seen, has proven that they always overestimate traffic impacts.
I won't rehash the reality of traffic patterns to casinos and resort destinations, but the empirical data is very much available.
 
MassDOT objections dropped:
State transit officials drop objections to Wynn casino
By Jon Chesto GLOBE STAFF AUGUST 24, 2015

The Baker administration’s transportation agency says the way should be cleared for state approval of Wynn Resorts’ $1.7 billion casino in Everett.

State regulators had previously raised several transportation-related issues with the project, effectively delaying Wynn’s request for a Massachusetts Environmental Policy Act permit to start construction.

But transportation officials are now satisfied enough with Wynn’s efforts that they recommend moving ahead with the casino approval, in comments filed with state environmental affairs secretary Matthew Beaton’s office Friday. Beaton is expected to issue his decision by the end of this week.

Beaton, in early April, had expressed concerns about the impact the casino would have on the Orange Line and on traffic in nearby Sullivan Square in Charlestown. Beaton also said at the time that the MBTA had improperly sold land next door to the casino site to Wynn before his office could make a final decision on the MEPA permit.

Those issues were the main reasons why Beaton chose at the time not to issue the environmental permit that the Nevada company needed to start construction.

But now Department of Transportation officials are saying that Wynn has addressed all three sticking points, at least to their satisfaction.

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Full article:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/busines...wynn-casino/tWvLRJrhPJgeiyp7Vf91jI/story.html
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Healy lives in Charlestown and there are a lot of people opposing the casino there. To me, this is just her using her political clout to express her personal NIMBY position. Very inappropriate IMO.

I should note that Wynn is planning a LOT of transportation mitigation already. They are paying to completely redo Route 99 between Sweetzer Circle and the bridge to Boston. They are paying to make modest improvements to Sullivan Square. They are paying to extend the Northern Strand Trail from north of Route 16 onto and through their property. They are contributing some money to build a new pedestrian bridge across the Mystic. They are providing free bus shuttles from Wellington. They are providing a ferry service to downtown Boston. They are making their employees park off-site and shuttle busing them in. They are charging for parking on-site.
 
cden4 said:
Healy lives in Charlestown and there are a lot of people opposing the casino there. To me, this is just her using her political clout to express her personal NIMBY position. Very inappropriate IMO.

I should note that Wynn is planning a LOT of transportation mitigation already. They are paying to completely redo Route 99 between Sweetzer Circle and the bridge to Boston. They are paying to make modest improvements to Sullivan Square. They are paying to extend the Northern Strand Trail from north of Route 16 onto and through their property. They are contributing some money to build a new pedestrian bridge across the Mystic. They are providing free bus shuttles from Wellington. They are providing a ferry service to downtown Boston. They are making their employees park off-site and shuttle busing them in. They are charging for parking on-site.
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But no aerial tram or canon transit options... What good are these alleged "improvements" without the ability to be fired from a canon into a giant net or be transported across the river in a glass bubble suspended by wires. I demand transportation justice!

Heck in 30 years when Monsanto re-opens their chemical factory at this location I bet they will do everything that Wynn proposed to do and ALSO provide aerial trams for their workers. And what better way to deal with waste gases than to detonate them in order to propel human projectiles across the Mystic?
 
tangent said:
But no aerial tram or canon transit options... What good are these alleged "improvements" without the ability to be fired from a canon into a giant net or be transported across the river in a glass bubble suspended by wires. I demand transportation justice!

Heck in 30 years when Monsanto re-opens their chemical factory at this location I bet they will do everything that Wynn proposed to do and ALSO provide aerial trams for their workers. And what better way to deal with waste gases than to detonate them in order to propel human projectiles across the Mystic?
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Tangent -- you are way behind the times

This calls for Quantum Entanglement Matter Transport -- its been demonstrated at the level of individual particles and entangled photons

Personally I'd be happy to take on the contract to spend the next few decades trying to see if we could transport a grape -- just like a person its soft and squishy

Remember Today a Grape --- Tomorrow its safe for the President and her family
 
Well. If Wynn's casino includes a comedy venue, you guys can try your chops at amateur night. Be warned.... it will be brutal.
 
atlantaden said:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...-from-state/lIgUYXQvwDFLNbqrg774wK/story.html

This is a huge win for Winn and for all those who support this project.
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Even if you don't like the Casino, it is a huge win for the idea that it should be easier for developers to build stuff on private property, particularly a brownfield site where it is offering transit and traffic offsets far in excess of real traffic impact and beyond what other have to pay.

It is really poisonous to the economic development environment that "opponents" get to hop from one venue to another in the hopes of stopping a development or shaking a developer down.

I voted against the Casino when I had the chance to stop it "on principle" and I lost and from then on I've supported it as I think any private developer of any legal activity is entitled to. I wish Boston would also see that *it lost* with its Suffolk Downs proposal and that it should move on.
 
Arlington said:
Even if you don't like the Casino, it is a huge win for the idea that it should be easier for developers to build stuff on private property, particularly a brownfield site where it is offering transit and traffic offsets far in excess of real traffic impact and beyond what other have to pay.

It is really poisonous to the economic development environment that "opponents" get to hop from one venue to another in the hopes of stopping a development or shaking a developer down.

I voted against the Casino when I had the chance to stop it "on principle" and I lost and from then on I've supported it as I think any private developer of any legal activity is entitled to. I wish Boston would also see that *it lost* with its Suffolk Downs proposal and that it should move on.
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Arlington -- I think we will see that Wynn is a model of what can be done when there is less government in the way [e.g. Las Vegas or Macau] versu typical Boston

I suspect that there won't be a whole lot of people seen hanging around rather than actually working
 
There going to have a destination casino near 93: the highway is parking lot now.

The state should be suing Monsanto to clean the land and make that area housing: to bring down the cost of housing: more supply rents will stabilize
 
TheRifleman said:
There going to have a destination casino near 93: the highway is parking lot now.

The state should be suing Monsanto to clean the land and make that area housing: to bring down the cost of housing: more supply rents will stabilize
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What?
 
chmeeee said:
What?
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My point was Last night around 7PM both 93 North & South were gridlock:
Now if the city & state think that the HWY is going to flow smoother in the future with a destination casino you people are out of your mind.

I'm not against the casino but they need to serious think about the TRAFFIC impact it will have on the entire surrounding areas outside Everett.

This will effect everybody driving in & out of Boston for work:
 
These are just my thoughts on the traffic situation close to the Casino. The hotel will have 600 rooms, I don't think that that will make a noticable increase in area traffic. Since this is a destination casino, many people staying at the hotel are from out of the city. Locals traveling to the casino (and most locals understand rush hour traffic patterns) will probably avoid traveling 93 at rush hour, I know I would. I would imagine the first few weeks there might be traffic problems but once things settle down, the traffic patterns will revert back to the same ole, same ole during rush hour and probably heavier traffic off hours for those going to the casino. Just my take on this.
 
atlantaden said:
These are just my thoughts on the traffic situation close to the Casino. The hotel will have 600 rooms, I don't think that that will make a noticable increase in area traffic. Since this is a destination casino, many people staying at the hotel are from out of the city. Locals traveling to the casino (and most locals understand rush hour traffic patterns) will probably avoid traveling 93 at rush hour, I know I would. I would imagine the first few weeks there might be traffic problems but once things settle down, the traffic patterns will revert back to the same ole, same ole during rush hour and probably heavier traffic off hours for those going to the casino. Just my take on this.
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Oh Okay, Then lets just build a billion dollar destination casino along with having first rate star entertainment on a infrastructure that already SUCKS.

I trust you that my commute will be fine in the end.

My point is that traffic sucks now how can a billion dollar casino in this area make it better for the area?
 
It won't but nothing except a congestion charge can truly reduce traffic so until that happens learn to live with it.

I don't mean to be rude but either stop driving or don't complain about it because news flash if you are driving you aren't just stuck in traffic you are the traffic.

I'm just tired of you always complaining about traffic without seeming to acknowledge many of the basic realities of why traffic exists. At least from what I remember.
 
TheRifleman said:
Oh Okay, Then lets just build a billion dollar destination casino along with having first rate star entertainment on a infrastructure that already SUCKS.

I trust you that my commute will be fine in the end.
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Wynn is paying for orange line improvements. And I think there was a lot of investment in I-93 downtown a few years ago, you can probably google the details.

Traffic is destiny in a city. You can increase capacity permanently, but you can relieve congestion only temporarily. (Isn't that obvious?)

In other word, Rifleman, the only thing that can make your commute more pleasant is a charliecard and a good book.
 
If I hear the traffic complaint one more time I'm going to scream. If the reason not to build recreational/entertainment facilities is because they'll cause too much traffic for the locals, then let's all agree there's some work to be done: defenestrate Fenway, capitulate Copley, disregard the Garden, hang Harvard, seal the Seaport, "amend" the Constitution, misplace the museums, hand over Hanover, and omit MIT.

This town would be so much better without all those nuisances slowing down my commute.
 
I think as hotel development along the waterfront picks up it'll be exciting and interesting if the water taxi program expands or improves to move visitors between the Seaport and the Wynn resort. Since moving to East Boston a year ago, I'd say I use the water taxis about once a month... more frequently if friends/family from out of town are coming by. I love it. They're a great way to really see and appreciate Boston. And for $20 roundtrip, its cost competitive with an Uber fare for the same journey.

A lot of us roll our eyes at Rifleman's redundant posts sometimes, but I respect what he's trying to articulate. I-93 during rush hours are already unpleasant. Wynn & Co. have been pretty mum on their whole transportation plan--there should admittedly be more transparency with that.

There is some validity to the notion that casino goers typically don't go during rush hours, but rather late evening hours or spread throughout the day. I've been to over 50 casinos in a dozen+ cities... these cathedrals of consumption don't operate on the same clock as the real world.
 
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