MA Casino Developments

TheRifleman said:
The numbers are defintely there. Massachusetts is 33% of Foxwoods and Moheghan Revenue stream. Wynn would clean up.

If Wynn builds a billion dollar casino near Boston, Everyone in the surrounding areas will go to it just out of boredom. Every walk of life in the inner cities would hang out in this area.
#1 Welfare recipient
#2 Social Security Retirees
#3 Disability society
#4 Asian Community
#5 Working Class (mostly Blue/White on the weekends)
#6 Politicans
#7 Corporate Functions
#8 Govt Employees
#9 Drug Dealers
#10 Upper Working class
#11 Students/Grad Students

The casino would suck in everybody like a vampire on crack.

When I talk about Everett, Malden, Medford, Lynn, Revere, Saugus, Chelsea, Somerville, Eastie, Winthrop, Nahant. These areas will be effected very negatively.

But people would come from Worcester, Springfield, New Bedford, Fall River, Waltham, Canton, Dorchester, Jamica Plain, Roxbury, Everywhere in the state which would absolutely destroy that area.

Boston generates alot of money and a billion dollar casino is a no-brainer for an investor especially the 1st casino getting its feet wet in the area. Until the other casinos are built and then that would start to eat through each others profits the race to the 1st casino will be the key.

Casinos are all about the masses not the Whales
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You forgot the blacks, Jews and queers on your list.
 
TheRifleman said:
When I talk about Everett, Malden, Medford, Lynn, Revere, Saugus, Chelsea, Somerville, Eastie, Winthrop, Nahant. These areas will be effected very negatively.
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Coming from Nahant, with many relatives still living there, the assertion that it will be "effected very negatively" is utterly preposterous. We're talking about an island 4 miles out in the ocean. It takes 15 minutes merely to traverse the causeway and get to the Lynn rotary, for goodness sake.

Geography is destiny, and each of these very different communities will be uniquely affected in its own way due to its particular geographic characteristics and those of surrounding communities. To simply lump them all together in a blanket statement is yet more mindless blather.
 
bbfen said:
You forgot the blacks, Jews and queers on your list.
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Rifleman was probably one of those folks who were against the purchase of alcohol in stores on Sundays. After all, think about all the alcoholics and degenerates who will get drunk on Sundays if we permit the sale of alcohol on god's day. That would suck the life right out of every city that has alcoholics. Such double standards.... welfare recipients and degenerates can spend their money on whatever they want so long as they aren't allowed to live within 20 miles of a casino. Did I get that right?
 
BosDevelop said:
Rifleman was probably one of those folks who were against the purchase of alcohol in stores on Sundays. After all, think about all the alcoholics and degenerates who will get drunk on Sundays if we permit the sale of alcohol on god's day. That would suck the life right out of every city that has alcoholics. Such double standards.... welfare recipients and degenerates can spend their money on whatever they want so long as they aren't allowed to live within 20 miles of a casino. Did I get that right?
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BosDev......I actually love gambling and Drinking. At this point I'm against the casino's in the city, they do more negative harm than positive in my opinion. Does that mean I'm right? Who knows.

But my two points are (which #2 is very crucial and will effect everybody)
#1 The people of Mass should have voted for the casinos not the politicans.

#2 Location for the casinos (Infrastructure). (this will be a taxpayers MONEYPIT on-going for life) For all you bright bulbs out there.
Who do you think will be paying for the expansions for the MBTA, HWY and Roads and Traffic will continue to be gridlock & miserable around the areas that have been presented for a casino deal.
Billions of tax dollars only to enrich a few and ruin communities in the process
 
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TheRifleman said:
BosDev......I actually love gambling and Drinking. At this point I'm against the casino's in the city, they do more negative harm than positive in my opinion. Does that mean I'm right? Who knows.

But my two points are (which #2 is very crucial and will effect everybody)
#1 The people of Mass should have voted for the casinos not the politicans.

#2 Location for the casinos (Infrastructure). (this will be a taxpayers MONEYPIT on-going for life) For all you bright bulbs out there.
Who do you think will be paying for the expansions for the MBTA, HWY and Roads and Traffic will continue to be gridlock & miserable around the areas that have been presented for a casino deal.
Billions of tax dollars only to enrich a few and ruin communities in the process
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Everett is not in Boston last I checked. So 5 miles is not far enough. Is 20 miles ok? Or does it have to be further? I am sick and tired of the pussification of America. If people want to spend their money, welfare, salary or otherwise, on gambling, they will do so whether it is their local bookie, keno, scratch tickets, powerball, the track, slots 45 min so in Rhode Island, internet gambling etc. I really have a hard time understanding why an upscale casino which will likely feature high table limits is any worse for lower/middle class folks than the aforementioned forms of gambling which are very pervasive in Massachusetts. Why should I not be able to patron a casino within a reasonable drive from my house a half dozen or so times a year because other people are addicts? Why are we trying to protect some (potential) addicts over others?
 
Again. #2 is a big item, but it doesn't change that the taxpayer will pick up the bill if the casino is in an urban location or the sticks. At least those infrastructure improvements in the urban setting would (positively hopefully) impact many more people, whereas improvements in the sticks only impact the casino goer.

If the T is expanded/improved to support the influx of casion goers, then that is a benefit to the hundreds of thousands of commuters.

And, if some of those improvements can be milked out of the developers. Then even better.
 
BosDevelop said:
I really have a hard time understanding why an upscale casino which will likely feature high table limits is any worse for lower/middle class folks than the aforementioned forms of gambling which are very pervasive in Massachusetts.
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I don't recall anyone, anywhere, at any time indicating that the casinos would be upscale or that there would be high table limits. Only that they would be destinations. They will adjust their games, amenities, and pricing structures to what will generate the highest profit. It is a business.
 
Correct. The $15 dollar minimum tables on a Saturday at Mohegan or Foxwoods may be a $5 minimum on Wednesday.
 
BosDevelop said:
I am sick and tired of the pussification of America.
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Heh, I was just thinking this about the big deal everyone made about the accident at Boylston today. Trolleys have been plowing into each other for over a hundred years.
 
Menino slams Bay State’s long casino approval process
By Dave Wedge
Thursday, November 29, 2012 - Added 3 days ago

Mayor Thomas M. Menino, still hospitalized, took aim at the state’s gaming commission, saying a lengthy approval process could give the cross-border competition an edge.

“We’ve had a long discussion,” Menino told reporters today in his first face-to-face press availability since he was hospitalized over a month ago. “About five years from now we’ll have a discussion about what’s really going to happen. By that time, all the worth will be drawn out of it. Because New Hampshire is ready to go.”

The Herald reported this week that New Hampshire could beat Massachusetts to the punch — and siphon off as much as half of the Boston gaming market — by quickly legalizing a casino at Rockingham Park in Salem just over the state line.

The Massachusetts gaming board has estimated that the first casino license may not be issued until early 2014, which could mean a gaming facility won’t even open until 2015 or later. State gaming officials told the Herald yesterday, however, that they are looking at ways to expedite the process.

The mayor, who has backed a proposed $1 billion gaming palace at Suffolk Downs, also downplayed the new bid by Las Vegas tycoon Steve Wynn for a casino along the shores of the Mystic River in Everett — moving in on what had become an uncontested bid for the Boston-area license after Wynn’s collaboration with Patriots [team stats] owner Bob Kraft in Foxboro fell through.

“Suffolk Downs, they own the land, they own everything. Everett? There’s still marsh land there, city-owned land ... land they have to work on,” Menino

Menino spoke to reporters at Spaulding Rehabilitation Hospital yesterday where he is recovering from a variety of ailments that kept him in a hospital bed since Oct. 26. But he showed he has not lost his sense of humor, making a crack about Wynn’s entrance into the Hub casino fray.

“Wynn will come and stick his stinky old nose into it and start some fun,” Menino said.

Wynn, who was in Everett Wednesday, is in talks to buy a 37-acre site that formerly housed a chemical plant for a proposed waterfront gaming resort. Officials from Wynn and Suffolk Downs declined to comment.

-— dwedge@bostonherald.com
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http://www.bostonherald.com/news/re...no_approval_process/srvc=home&position=recent

Either Suffok gets the Green light or there will be alot of people held accountable for this taking so long.

Something will give soon in the Casino situation. I hope Eastie and Revere residents are ready for the politicans to slam down every possible scenario for the Green light for Caesers.
 
Success Of Suffolk Downs Casino May Hinge On Menino’s Reelection

Boston Developers’ Luck May Run Out If Mayor Decides Not To Run

By Scott Van Voorhis

Banker & Tradesman Columnist

Here’s a little hint: If you are a developer with big plans for Boston, especially if they involve a casino, you had better be praying early and often for Mayor Thomas M. Menino’s swift recovery
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http://www.bankerandtradesman.com/news152994.html
 
Boston officials worry that state gaming commission could delay a Boston-area casino license
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http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/b.../casino-delays-could-hit-boston.html?page=all


You know who might be a true winner if the casino moves forward at the Suffok Downs Location. The SQUIRE LOUNGE in Revere the strip club www.squireclub.com. Whats better than a strip club near a Casino.

Great community to bring up your children.

Future real estate investments a couple of drug houses near that area could be a cash cow.
 
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choo said:
b/c no one does drugs there now.
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of course they don't. And no one who lives in Massachusetts regularly gambles because destination casinos are the only way to gamble and we don't have any of those. Pay no attention to those who abuse lottery scratch tickets, keno, online gambling, bookies etc.
 
Boston.com -12/12/12
Wynn signs lease for Everett casino site
By Kathy McCabe, Globe Staff
Casino mogul Steve Wynn has secured a 14-month lease on the former Monsanto chemical factory, and plans to submit an application to the state gambling commission to build a $1 billion casino there, Everett Mayor Carlo DeMaria Jr. said Tuesday.

"We believe Wynn will put in an application," DeMaria told about 300 residents, who gathered Tuesday night for a community meeting to discuss the proposal. "What we do now is negotiate a host agreement" outlining community benefits.

Nancy Sterling, a consultant for Wynn, confirmed the developer will likely submit an application. "It looks like we're headed that way," said Sterling, a senior vice president in the Boston office of ML Strategies, who attended Tuesday's meeting.

DeMaria said that if Wynn were awarded a license, the developer would then move to purchase the 37-acre site on the Mystic River owned by FBT Realty Inc., a private realty firm.

"I know they have a lease for 14 months, and if successful with the license, will negotiate a purchase and sale agreement," he said.

Wynn, whose Las Vegas resorts include the Bellagio and Mirage, is one of two developers eyeing a casino license available for Greater Boston. Caesar's Entertainment has partnered with the owners of the Suffolk Down racetrack in East Boston and Revere to put a $1 billion resort there.

Wynn would compete with Suffolk Downs for the sole casino resort license for Greater Boston. The state gambling commission has set a Jan. 15 deadline for developers to pay a $400,000 application fee and submit company financial documents.

DeMaria said Wynn likes Everett's water views of Boston. "They love that it's on the waterfront. They could do a water taxi service to Boston," he said. Wynn visited the site late last month.

The state's gambling law requires that a community hold a local referendum to decide if a casino should be situated in that community. Such a vote would not be scheduled until after an application, DeMaria said.

Some Everett residents who attended Tuesday's meeting were split on whether a casino belongs in their city.

"I see this as real good for the City of Everett to finally gain some income," said William Frederick, one of several who spoke in favor of a casino. "The taxes here just keep going up, up, up."

But Evmorphia Stratis said a casino would bring more urban ills to Everett. "If we want to increase traffic, pollution and crime, this is the way to go," she said. "I am against this."

Wynn is the creator of iconic casinos on the Las Vegas strip. He attempted to partner with New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft to build a casino resort in Foxborough, but backed down after local opposition mounted earlier this year.

athy McCabe can be reached at Kmccabe@globe.com. Follow her on Twitter @GlobeKMcCabe.
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Joe Curtatone is not going to be pleased with that. I know cities and towns outside of where the casino will be located can only influence things so much, but I imagine he'll do everything within his power and then some to stop this.
 
At this point I hope the casino goes to Suffolk. This is worse than the Suffolk Proposal.

These politicans are fucking assholes. If a casino is built in these areas it will make Atlantic City look like Beverly Hills.
 
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