MA Casino Developments

Think Everett would push for restored Orange Line Service if this goes through?
 
The entire North Shore will be affected with a casino in EVERETT. Everett will turn into something like the similar bad parts of Roxbury & Dorchester.

Also this will cost a mininum of 500 Million of tax-dollars to upgrade the transit and it will still be a congestion nightmare.

We are about to get taking to the cleaners people.


There goes Somerville.
 
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Where goes Somerville? My god, this fear-mongering is excessive.
 
I know Mayor Curtatone is against casinos, but this site would have no effect on Somerville at all.
 
Clearly Somerville will be bled dry, and become a crime-ridden slum due to being near a casino... [/snark]
 
BussesAin'tTrains said:
Clearly Somerville will be bled dry, and become a crime-ridden slum due to being near a casino... [/snark]
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Winter Hill already has crime and the area will deteriorate over-time with a billion dollar casino. Truly you have no clue about casinos. This is the industry I have devoted my entire life to since I have been 10.
Sunday thru Thursday will be the Social Security disasters that depend on these checks to live. They will be addicted to the slots that used to generate Foxwoods over 50Million a weekend.
Friday & Saturday night will be the high energy crowd looking for the action, drugs, hookers and high rolling.
A billion dollar casino in the outskirts off 93 attracted to the Orange Line next door to the Home Depot in Somerville and NSTAR Grid in Everett most unattractive area in the city. Also this is only up the street from Charlestown.

A couple of questions.
Have you ever heard of a casino being good for a community?
Besides the Vegas Strip……..Vegas is a dump (Reno is worse)
Detriot, Atlantic City, Pittsburgh, These areas look so suppressed.
Foxwoods and Mohegan are experiencing high crime rates these days and that is out in the WOODS.

I think the vision to politics is get rid of the community and we OWN the town.
 
I'm ambivalent. Your conspiracy theorizing about teh evi1 politicos doesn't inspire much confidence though. Apparently you believe that a Casino in Everett will destroy not only Everett, but also the city of Boston, Somerville, Medford, Malden, Lynn, Chelsea and whole of the North Shore.

I won't try to change your mind, since you've clearly become an expert due to your decades of intense study. All I can do is pray that you're wrong, and that my Somerville home isn't overrun by Casinorats.
 
TheRifleman said:
This is the industry I have devoted my entire life to since I have been 10.
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A couple of questions.
Have you ever heard of a casino being good for a community?
Besides the Vegas Strip……..Vegas is a dump (Reno is worse)
Detriot, Atlantic City, Pittsburgh, These areas look so suppressed.
Foxwoods and Mohegan are experiencing high crime rates these days and that is out in the WOODS.

I think the vision to politics is get rid of the community and we OWN the town.
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Sounds like you have a gambling problem ;) (I understand that is a serious concern, but there are plenty of other avenues in this state for those that want to gamble)

But all these cities were dumps that looked to casinos to save them. Boston is not in that situation at all. (Pitt has actually been improving from what i understand, but i know nothing of the city or its casino). If Everett doesn't want the casino, they can vote it down. It's a strong blue-collar town. The people are smart enough to weigh their own costs/benefits. Maybe they will get more transit to Boston and jobs at the casino that Everett, Medford, Charlestown, and Somerville people (of which I am one) can get new job opportunities in Everett and beyond.

The law has a local vote provision. I don't understand why the people always complaining about government interference don't trust the community to make its own decision.
 
^ Pittsburgh is experiencing a renaissance right now actually.
 
TheRifleman said:
A couple of questions.
Have you ever heard of a casino being good for a community?
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Well, yes.

A glaringly obvious example (and, frankly, the more appropriate comparison to Boston) is Singapore. Like Boston, Singapore is an Alpha Global City; it has a very highly-skilled labor force; roughly a quarter of each city's respective populations is foreign born; and a large share of each city's employment sectors are in finance and high-tech industries/biotechnology.

In 2005 Singapore ended a decades-long ban on casino gaming and later opened two multi-billion dollar integrated casino resorts: the Resorts World Sentosa and the Marina Bay Sands Resort. And did these casinos have an adverse effect on Singapore? No, the casinos have not had an adverse effect on Singapore.
- Casino-related crime is under control.
- The economic impact has exceeded most's expectations
- The presence of the casinos and media scrutiny has actually put a spotlight on Singaporeans' gambling additions and actually helped address it in a big way. Read this excerpt:

Additionally, the number of gamblers seeking help at counseling centers has risen. According to counseling centers, about seven in ten say the IRs’ casinos are the main reason for gamblers’ money woes. Tanjong Pagar Family Service Centre’s senior counselor, Mr Charles Lee, acknowledges “that the presence of the IRs is a trigger for relapse” for those who have previously kicked the addiction. (More debtors seeking help - The New Paper, 27 July 2011). However, most feel that the casinos are not the direct cause of more people seeking counseling. Rather, it is due to greater awareness of problem gambling through media. This has reduced the stigma for problem gamblers seeking counseling. In the long run, this could be beneficial for those who were previously ashamed to seek counseling.
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Finally, from a skyline-enthusiast's perspective there is no denying the aesthetic benefits having a casino has had on that community.

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Your move, TheRifleman.
 
Wait, there's crime in Winter Hill? (For decades, now! lol)

I suspect a casino will have three impacts: some jobs (mostly low-paying hourly menial work). More traffic on the highways headed north. Less traffic heading to Foxwoods/M. Sun.
 
Everett is not Singapore and never will be. How can you even compare the Mystic River to the Singapore strait. Singapore is a world travel destination. Everett is NOT.

If you notice in the picture. It looks like the development was placed away from the city in a certain location. I'm not saying a casino development might not work in Boston the SEAPORT DISTRICT possibly. There is a different class of people in these areas. A different wage class in these areas. Everett, Chelsea, Revere, Lynn, Malden, Medford, Somerville, Winthrop, Saugus, E.Boston..........A different working class community than the Seaport District.

Everett Crime Rate Indexes
http://www.clrsearch.com/Everett-Demographics/MA/Crime-Rate

Crime is rampant in these areas already. A billion dollar casino in this area will feed the negative because the community in the area is already suffering demoralization from society.
 
So a casino across the harbor in an unpopulated commercial district is A-ok, but in working class Everett it's a death-knell?
 
BussesAin'tTrains said:
^ Pittsburgh is experiencing a renaissance right now actually.
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A couple of salient points regarding this so-called renaissance:
1. This year PA had to allocate $6.4M to address compulsive gambling. What does that tell you?
2. "Last November, a couple left three kids—a 10-month-old girl, a three-year-old boy and a 10-year-old boy—in a minivan while they gambled in the Rivers Casino in Pittsburgh. There have been similar incidents at casinos around the country, including several where children have died. As more casinos open nationwide, the problem will likely become more epidemic than aberration." I've been to Foxwoods a few times and have been appalled to see little kids following their parents around late at night.

Gambling feeds on the weak, and locating this thing in Everett will prey primarily on those with easy access...residents of Everett, Somerville, Malden, Medford, Charlestown...

A state that profits by feeding off the weakness of its citizens is in bad shape.
 
Again, I'm not arguing that casinos are a good thing, just expressing my bemusement at Riff's haranguing. I don't attribute Pittsburgh's recent growth to the casinos, I'm just acknowledging that it IS growing quicker than most of the country. That may be in SPITE of the casino, but it is happening.
 
ledjes said:
Gambling feeds on the weak, and locating this thing in Everett will prey primarily on those with easy access...residents of Everett, Somerville, Malden, Medford, Charlestown...
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Let's take a quiz! Who knows the difference between a Resort Market and a Frequency Market?

ledjes said:
A state that profits by feeding off the weakness of its citizens is in bad shape.
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Governor Patrick self-identifies as a social-justice Democrat. I'd like to ask him how much social justice will be dispensed to citizens of the Commonwealth by the casino-industrial complex.
 
I can't believe you think this is a worse location than Eastie/Revere. Neighborhoods abut Suffolk Downs on three sides -- and Chemical Lane is no where near a neighborhood except for a few dozen homes surrounded by gas tanks, a former-coal-plant-now-natural-gas-plant, and a scrap yard. If we're talking isolated, low-impact areas: Chemical Lane is the best you're going to get near Boston. Yes, a high class casino in the Seaport would do wonders, but it seems clear that they're not going for that. They're covering their ears and going "La la la, I can't hear you."
 
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