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The cut was already planned by May 2022. It's strange that Somerville still constructed the islands well after that.
 
The EGE said:
The cut was already planned by May 2022. It's strange that Somerville still constructed the islands well after that.
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But the t would be upset that they wouldn't have inaccessible stops if the 85 stayed longer than expected or if it was kept in because of the neighborhood resistance.
 
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The garage is supposedly big enough for 120 buses:

Perhaps the 88 is just sufficient for existing service?
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Quincy would need about 100 to maintain existing service with BEB's. The rest of the space is for service expansion. The T's still got 340 un-exercised options on the 40-footer BEB contract, most of which are earmarked to populate the new Arborway and Medford garages but which at least 100 buses appear to be slush options to spread around the system. So we'll probably see another small tack-on in the coming months to buff out Quincy further.
 
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Edit: This is a criticism of the reporting style not bike lanes
 
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They present it as a pretty mixed bag. Drive times are slightly up, bus times are much more significantly down, crashes are down, but bus-involved crashes are up. They point to (and I agree) the lack of a barrier between the bus lanes and the travel lanes, allowing the more entitled among us to simply slip into the bus lane as an express route (until they crash into a bus). Though the lack of a barrier between the two was insisted upon by the fire dept, so idk what the remedy is without them on-side.
 
It's the person who drives from Dorchester to Roxbury and is complaining about traffic that will never be convinced of anything. Most of the bus routes that travel through Dorchester go to Roxbury. They say they're now late to school dropoff (idk how not a minute of delay would cause that) but if they're driving along Columbus to Roxbury I'd assume they must attend one of the schools on Malcolm X. I get some parents want to drive their kid to school but if this is seriously such a strain on your life to do the drive when there are so many alternatives to get to your destination then I don't know what could help change the mind of such a person. It's pretty clear from the outside that their issue wasn't that the bus lanes made it take longer, but rather the traffic came back in the years following 2021 as the pandemic waned. I'm not sure you can convince people dead-set on driving that driving even if they don't need to is the problem here and they gotta learn to live with that reality.
 
Seems like one of the better, more well-rounded Globe articles tbh. I've read too many articles that focus almost entirely on the opinions of a few vocal neighbors. This article included the criticism, as well as positive reaction, advocate/expert perspectives, and most importantly data.

This was a big first change that people are still getting used to, but overall, I read the article quite positively. Bus times are improving and private vehicles are barely affected. There are a few more incidents that come from the adjustments to the road. I think once the treatment is extended up to Ruggles and down BHA (along with bus-mounted enforcement), the larger understanding, vision, and results will become much clearer to all road users (except for those who despise the idea of taking the bus/those who do). Right now, it's still a pretty short section, but the larger vision is a massive and very important corridor through the city.
 
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I've seen some recent plans for street designs downtown that have the BNRD Silver Line service as this, not the 'dog-leg' that was given. Here's the relevant section of my updated map.
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Go ACE! Bus Stops Are Clearer Than Ever Thanks To MTA's Bus-Mounted Camera Enforcement - Streetsblog New York City

The MTA's automated cameras are clearing up bus stops across the city.
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The number of drivers caught blocking bus stops along the 50 bus routes with Automated Camera Enforcement, which insiders call "ACE," has dropped 40 percent after the MTA turned on the cameras [in June 2024], with another four routes coming online last Friday.
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I am so excited for this on the MBTA system
 
Per Reddit, the T has quietly put at least one of the new battery-electric buses into revenue service. The one in the post is one of the 4300-series buses ultimately destined for the new Quincy Garage, not one of the 4200-series with left-side doors for the Harvard tunnel. I imagine there will be much more fanfare when the renovated North Cambridge facility opens and the new buses take over base service on the 71 and 73.

While I still think shutting down the trolleybus network and ripping out much of the infrastructure was a huge mistake, I'm glad to see the T making good on its promise to replace them with electric vehicles (albeit with diesel heaters for very cold weather), even if it's two years late. The left-hand door buses will also significantly speed up outbound trips on the 71/73 since they'll be able to go back to boarding in the lower busway and riders will no longer have to loop back through Harvard Square on the surface. (It would also be nice to get more buses with left-side doors for the 66 and 86 so those routes could also board in the lower busway.)
 
The diesel heaters make me even more skeptical about whether these are actually better or if they are just better at taking more money from different buckets while taking less from individual ones. The BEBs are ~17% heavier than the existing diesel/hybrid or CNG buses, which equates to 87% more road wear thanks to that sneaky 4th power. Between the higher upkeep costs compared to trolleybuses, the need for diesel heaters, and of course that sneaky 4th power, I'm not convinced we're actually saving any money by taking out those overhead lines.

Unfortunately without extensive insider knowledge and/or a lot of time, I'm not sure that's an answerable question.
 
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Per Reddit, the T has quietly put at least one of the new battery-electric buses into revenue service. The one in the post is one of the 4300-series buses ultimately destined for the new Quincy Garage, not one of the 4200-series with left-side doors for the Harvard tunnel. I imagine there will be much more fanfare when the renovated North Cambridge facility opens and the new buses take over base service on the 71 and 73.

While I still think shutting down the trolleybus network and ripping out much of the infrastructure was a huge mistake, I'm glad to see the T making good on its promise to replace them with electric vehicles (albeit with diesel heaters for very cold weather), even if it's two years late. The left-hand door buses will also significantly speed up outbound trips on the 71/73 since they'll be able to go back to boarding in the lower busway and riders will no longer have to loop back through Harvard Square on the surface. (It would also be nice to get more buses with left-side doors for the 66 and 86 so those routes could also board in the lower busway.)
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It's a soft launch with only a couple of buses participating, because these are being run out of Charlestown garage which only has a couple electric charging bays installed for the testing of the fleet. They're saving the 4200's for the full service launch which will come with the service change back to the lower busway, since until then there's no use for the left-hand doors. There's been 5 4200's and 5 4300's testing at Charlestown, Cabot, and Southampton for a few months now per NETransit, and an unspecified number of additional deliveries have also taken place. They need to get reps in cold weather to test the charging cycles in weather extremes (which the temps in the upcoming forecast will certainly challenge). Hopefully the newest-generation XE40's fare better than the 5 Silver Line XE60 BEB's from 2019 which haven't run at all in a month-and-a-half in a not-particularly-good omen for the tech.
 
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Side running busway
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Why not a center-running busway? The Sullivan Sq underpass does pop up in the center of the street just south of the Alford St bridge, but that should not preclude a center-running busway. In any case, at least the project schedule looks fairly aggressive, and the project will provide bus lanes for the SL-3 to be extended to Sullivan Sq., and also provide improved bus service for a future Revs stadium.
 
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Why not a center-running busway? The Sullivan Sq underpass does pop up in the center of the street just south of the Alford St bridge, but that should not preclude a center-running busway. In any case, at least the project schedule looks fairly aggressive, and the project will provide bus lanes for the SL-3 to be extended to Sullivan Sq., and also provide improved bus service for a future Revs stadium.
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I would expect that it's because the station is on the west/north side of the underpass so it might tie in better on that side of the street? I don't see how the work the northern end of things tho.
 
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