MBTA Buses & Infrastructure

Dayton just replaced(and increased) their fleet with Gillig IMCs. They are going great.
 
Stlin said:
The MBTA recently posted a short "Key Takeaways" about the life cycle cost differentials between maintaining trolleybus service and switching to BEB for the 71 and the 73. It's only 2 pages, so it's all below. I'm not qualified in the least to vet these numbers, but it seems to justify the MBTAs desire to pull down the wires, even if keeping the wires makes sense for enroute charging.

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Disinformation of Stalinist proportions. No one in the whole MassDOT organization has a sense of shame or of honor.
 
shmessy said:
Hyperbole much?
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Probably, but MassDOT and the T (at least under Baker & Company) have shown a disturbing tendency to muck with numbers and assumptions in their studies and presentations to kill projects they didn't want and push the choices they did, and it's understandably frustrating to have the conversation influenced by such chicanery. So, definitely hyperbole but I agree with the sentiment, if not perhaps to quite the same rhetorical degree.
 
HenryAlan said:
Interesting, I didn't realize there were actual plans for Hyde Park Ave. Exciting if still true, now I'll need to do some googling for more details.
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I haven't seen any details, but it's on the MBTA's coming-soon list.

real_EthanHunt said:
Congress St lanes are in between Sudbury and North St.
also, the Rutherford planned one should be extended to the Tobin off ramp.
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Congress Street lanes? I haven't heard anything about those.
 
Teban54 said:
Winter 2022 schedule is out. Overall reduction of 5% of trips due to driver shortage, with many routes having reduced frequencies and schedule changes.
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I think I found the problem!

Trainees are paid $15.86/hour, 40 hours/week for eight weeks of training. After training, new hires start at $21.13/hour, 30 hours/week, with the potential to advance to 40 hours/week.
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Who's going to sign up to drive a bus for that? Especially with all the other issues of being the low person in seniority for picking shifts, needing to get/maintain a CDL (and the restrictions on substance use even off the clock), etc.

I don't know what a bus operator makes after a few years experience, but I suspect it increases decently per year in the union agreement. And if so, they really ought to be putting that out there as part of the posting.

"The job pays $21/hr and you might only get 30 hours a week" and "The job starts at $21/hr, and you get a guaranteed by contract $5/hr raise every year until you hit $40/hr" (or whatever it really is), are substantially different employment propositions.
 
This is a big middle finger to JP and the Emerald Necklace Conservancy! 700k sf for 200 buses? PVTA put 150(including some 60fter space) into 280k sf, for 1/8th the price!
 
Tallguy said:
This is a big middle finger to JP
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Uh, how? They're getting 8 acres of land that's currently parking lot to redevelop and should make Washington St a vastly more coherent place, a better street grid, and a wider natural buffer for the sidewalk/bike path than currently exists.

What exactly were you expecting here?

and the Emerald Necklace Conservancy!
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They don't exactly sound opposed or like they were expecting any significant portion of the Arborway site to become park.

(Karen Mauney-Brodek, President of the Emerald Necklace Conservancy)

“We believe that a bus facility, plus at least 8 acres of housing and other community amenities, including housing for the formerly homeless and associated services, can all be accommodated on the (Arborway) site,” she told StreetsblogMASS.
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mass.streetsblog.org

Neighbors Have High Hopes for Redevelopment of Arborway Yard

“This will be one of the most transit-rich spots in the city with more than 18 acres of public land that can be utilized in a way that meets community needs,” says Karen Mauney-Brodek, …
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700k sf for 200 buses? PVTA put 150(including some 60fter space) into 280k sf
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So at "PVTA" square footage, that'd be 373k sf for 200 buses. This appears to include an underground employee parking garage, and that seems like it could be another 100k sf as well.

But really, if they're overbuilding the size of the facility relative to what they currently intend to use it for, I'd be thrilled that they're building facilities with room to grow further in the future, not opposed.

for 1/8th the price!
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I don't see a budget listed here at all? Do you have one?
 
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