Are you trying to tell me you don't? Or that you don't think anyone else does?
I think 90% of people would tell you the pole is ugly and looks like it's falling apart. I'm sure it's not issue #1 on their mind, but the accumulation of these things (tracks/poles looking decrepit, train cars covered in dirt with stains of who-knows-what leaking down their sides, paint peeling off ceilings and walls at stations, wheels squealing like a banshee at every stop, etc.) make our transit system feel poorly maintained and an afterthought.
Sure, if you point and exclaim "LOOK AT THIS!!! ISN'T THAT UGLY?!?!?" with a totally choke-leash leading question, you might get some nods. Otherwise...no, not at all. You would be hard pressed to find 1 out of every 1000 riders finding *an* opinion--
any opinion--about wire poles. Much less any opinion stronger than: "Yes...that is a thing that must exist, I guess? What was the question again???" Please do not conflate a topic of passing interest on a set of arch-urb forums
wholly dedicated to the fervent obsessing over aesthetic matters obscure and/or trivial as a pervasive wavelength for the general public. It's not. If you posted that question on Reddit r/boston instead of aB you'd be starving for pageviews, much less replies, much less
strident opinions in the replies. This take is individualistic in the extreme.
The T does shitloads of rider surveying about appearances. That was actionable data they used for the station 'Brightening' program, and exactly which parts of stations needed the most brightening. "Trolley poles iz ugly-ass" did not rate anywhere high enough to command bucks spent. And even if it did, it's more likely that "I don't like the excess quantity of cabling youze guys got up on them D poles...can you bury some of that it uglifies the Emerald Necklace?" is probably going to outrank what color the B's comparably minimalist reservation poles are painted.
I'd love a source on that green paint explanation. It seems if they wanted to hide rust spots they'd paint them rust/brown/red color to begin with instead of green. Green doesn't hide the rust at all.
Some RR.net explainer thread eons ago. No, I'm not going to pull my hair out for an hour struggling with that board's 1994's-Internet anti-useful forum search to try to find the exact mention. It's
both so tarnishing doesn't stick out like sore thumb, and also so at eye level they blend in with the tree line and/or adjacent wood telephone poles. And it went into general adoption that way on the order of 125 years ago, so we are not going to attempt to psychoanalyze the retro-Pantone aesthetic of 1890's populations. We're not going to have a Pantone swatch-war at all here, because that isn't the point. "Do enough people care
at all to have any opinion?" is the point.
Railheads are rusty iron all the time. In my mind at least they're suppose to be rusty. It doesn't look like they were once some pristine painted element that fell into disrepair.
Now let's flip this question on its head:
Do you now have a source on the "supposed to be rusty" take? Of course you don't; that take is as individual as a snowflake. Maybe this other guy over here thinks railheads are innately ugly, should not be seen, and we should be planting grass inside of all of our above-ground flanges. That is, after all, a thing that is done for ground treatments on some LRT systems. Is there any citizen polling in Greater Boston that you could possibly amass together that would turn up strong opinions about something as obscure as that? Extremely unlikely. For every 1 who has any opinion, even a weak one, there are 500 who have no opinion whatsoever. Because so extremely few citizens have formed an opinion about what a railhead should look like. They don't spend much time looking at it. They know that it exists, and that's about the extent of it.
Acknowledge when a personal take is purely personal, please, and acknowledge that some of the aesthetic opinioneering that rises to the top in a typical archBoston thread is very stridently askew from what and how much a typical citizen audience that cares about MBTA aesthetics. Or aesthetics in general, given some of the discourse we get hung up on in the Dev thread. And don't attempt speak in broad strokes for public sentiment unless you can point to a means of quantifying the sentiment.
The Station Brightening program happened because of popular demand quantified through very deep and very extensive rider surveying about aesthetic P's-and-Q's. If the appearance of wire poles truly rated in the public consciousness, they'd already have some responses on that through decades of surveying. They'd already have some responses percolating through the low levels of the rider surveys because there are multiple corridors where wire poles are more visually conspicuous against their surroundings than they are on the B Line (or C/E, for that matter). We'd be seeing opinions about whether the new GLX poles should be painted, and what color; there hasn't been much. We'd be seeing opinions on whether the comm cable clutter on Blue's and D's respective overheads should be pared back; there hasn't been much. We'd be seeing comments about the Mass Ave. TT poles, which are much more frequently-occurring and MUCH individually rustier than the newer and reservation-consolidated ones on the B. There not only hasn't been much aesthetic pigeonholing there despite a tortured 15 years of comment on how exactly to re-streetscape Mass Ave. throughout North Cambridge, but since any focus on the poles ends up crossing the streams with the T's perenial quest to rip down every Cambridge TT wire and dieselize the joint there ends up being ferocious local pushback to touching anything about the poles in any way/shape/form. We also saw shitloads of comments when NIMBY-hellhole Belmont was planning the rebuild of Belmont St./Trapelo Rd. on the 73 TT, because early on consolidating TT poles and streetlight poles while burying the above-ground utilities underground
was a heated inflection point about the project. When wire burial priced out so shockingly high that Belmont had to VE it out, people stopped having any opinions about the TT poles/wires because the orders-of-magnitude more objectionable above-ground street utilities were all staying put and cleansheet sightlines were never going to be a thing.
^See^...sentiment about these kinds of aesthetics
DO exert a gravitational signature. So find where that signature is/isn't for this pet issue. You can't simply point to a total void in the feedback and say "See; 90% of people agree with me because I was the first to express a strong opinion and they stayed silent." Consensus-proving doesn't work that way. If there's a total, absolute absence of any feedback signature giving any damns whatsoever about whether trolley poles are painted what color how often enough: it's overwhelmingly likely because you can't move the give-a-damn-o'-meter on more than the thousandths percentile of public opinion like you quite demonstrably can with the question of "Whither power-washing a station's walls more than once a century?" It is what it is, and the strongest single opinion in the room doesn't single-handedly fill a void. If it's truly a pervasive thought, the evidence has been quantified somewhere along the way. Find it here if this is an aesthetic thing that actually drives customer satisfaction.