The Hub on Causeway (née TD Garden Towers) | 80 Causeway Street | West End

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New entrance to the Garden garage. Not sure what they're planning for traffic pattern, but it'd be nice to give people a second option to get to 93 (AKA go out to North Washington instead of Nashua).
 
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Seems like that's going to make it hard to walk from "Portal Park" (the little parklet overlooking the Zakim Bridge) to the Garden and North Station.
 
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A bit more complicated than that.

I would support decking the Pike (as I did before). Now that Ms. Wilkerson, Ms. Walz, and Mr. DiMasi are gone, perhaps we can start fresh?

Isn't it fun?! Unfortunately for Columbus Center parcel, the neighborhood got ahold of that land for a playground (which is quite nice, in spite of being between a highway and a parking garage...), which certainly won't be given up without some sort of gross overcompensation.
 
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Lol, these TD Garden towers were originally zoned and modeled in the 90s!

LOL, were you even in kindergarten then, Data? Only in Boston does it take a generation or more for some things to get done.
 
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It looks like they're doing parking garage archaeology.

"We'e finally uncovered an intact ramp that dates from the mid-Clinton era."
 
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This is an interesting meeting video but almost 2 hours long:

http://northendwaterfront.com/2013/...erns-regarding-three-tower-development-video/

Some hightlights:
not the final design of the building, may not be all glass
project may include movie theaters and a bowling alley


Did you know that the glare of a glass skyscraper can melt a car!

After a while they completely ignore one woman. Among her complaints is that these building should not be higher than the Zakim Bridge out of respect. She also wants the required open space on this project! I couldn't think of a worse place for a large park.
 
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The Zakim comment was awesome. That lady didn't even get a single word response.
 
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I'll betcha that if you went back in time you would find the exact same lady complaining about the height of the Zakim Bridge.
 
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She mentioned that nothing in the north end can be built higher that the steeple of the Old North Church. I'm sure she would have been against the Zakim for the reason.
 
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The Zakim comment was awesome. That lady didn't even get a single word response.

What did she say? Don't have time to comb through two hours of video haha
 
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She mentioned that nothing in the north end can be built higher that the steeple of the Old North Church. I'm sure she would have been against the Zakim for the reason.

She is mentally ill. Something is wrong with her. Something is wrong with her. The nimby's are getting out of control over here
 
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Boston Properties seeks millions in tax relief for 'blighted' TD Garden site


The Boston Redevelopment Authority is poised to provide millions in tax concessions for the developers of the $1 billion mixed-use project slated to be built on a "blighted" parking lot in front of the TD Garden.
Thomas Grillo
Real Estate Editor-
Boston Business Journal

The Boston Redevelopment Authority is considering millions in tax concessions for the developers of the $1 billion mixed-use project slated to be built on a parking lot in front of the TD Garden.

Boston Properties (NYSE: BXP) and Delaware North Cos. have filed an application for a Chapter 121A agreement, a vestige of urban renewal from the 1950s that allows developers to pay reduced taxes in exchange for building on what is dubbed a blighted area. The state law defines blight as a place that is “detrimental to the safety, health, morals, welfare or sound growth of a community because it is unduly costly to develop...”

In the application, the developers argue that the site qualifies since the Causeway Street parcel has been vacant since the Boston Garden was demolished in 1998 and has been used as a parking lot ever since. The application also noted that the site is subject to a high water table which would add to the projects' cost. The developers also said the MBTA’s Green and Orange Lines would have to relocated at considerable expense.

A tax-credit dollar amount is not listed in the application. A City Hall source said the details are negotiated following approval of the 121A by the BRA, but Boston Properties and Delaware North could expect to save millions.

The development team's plans for the 1.7-million-square-foot mixed-use development include three towers on the 2.8-acre parcel. The development would feature a 20-story hotel, a 25-story office tower and a 45-story residential building with 500 units. In addition, up to 376,000 square feet of retail space would be located in the lower levels of the three buildings.

Bryan Koop, regional manager for Boston Properties, and Charles Jacobs, a principal of Delaware North Cos., did not return calls seeking comment.

Mayor Thomas M. Menino defended the tax credit request, saying that the savings are necessary if the development team is to attract a 40,000-square-foot supermarket at a reasonable rent. The mayor said the tax savings would be passed along to the tenant. The neighborhood has been supportive of an affordable market in the area for more than a decade, he said.

“You have to be competitive today, construction costs have risen by 20-to-25 percent in one year in this city,” Menino said. “The cost of development is very high and we have to help them (developers). The city is not losing any money. You have to get the project off the ground. You have to think about what this project means to the city.”

But critics say the area around the TD Garden is not blighted, given that it is surrounded by $1 million condominiums and luxury apartment buildings.

“There isn’t any blight in the downtown,” said Matthew Cahill, executive director of the Boston Finance Commission, an independent city watchdog agency. “We have some real questions abut this application.”

A BRA spokeswoman said a public hearing on the 121A application will be held at a later date before the BRA board, but a time has not been set.

In the past, the agency has said more than 100 buildings have signed 121A agreements, most of them to subsidize affordable housing projects. Other buildings with 121A agreements include the Prudential Center, One Beacon Street, TD Garden, Marriott Long Wharf, and the Greenhouse residential development on Huntington Avenue.

James Zahka, a member of the West End Civic Association, said under no circumstance should the project be granted 121A status.

“The area is not blighted and the notion of granting tax breaks to billionaires in unconscionable,” he said. “Jeremy Jacobs of Delaware North has a net worth of $2.8 billion and Mort Zuckerman of Boston Properties has a net worth of $2.3 billion. There is no reason to grant tax subsidies. The city says it cannot afford to give pay raises to the police. If they didn’t give tax breaks to billionaire developers, perhaps they could afford to pay the police and teachers what they deserve.”

http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/r...n-properties-seeking-tax-relief.html?page=all

Didn't the city already give the land for free to the Jacob Brothers. It's ashame what is going on with the working class. Keep giving your tax dollars to help enrich billionaires and their political allies.

Nothing more than the rich robbing the poor and the BRA continues to support this type of Economic Planning for the city taxpayers.
 
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Yeah, typical bullshit. Detrimental to the morals of the community? Heh, what a way to word it. But if the notion of "detrimental to safety and health" was actually taken seriously, then none of those 6+ lane nasty car sewer roads would have been allowed to be built in so many residential neighborhoods (hello Blue Hill Avenue!).

What I find interesting in this article is that they claim that they need to relocate the Orange and Green lines. Again? Did anyone hear anything else about this?
 
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Yeah, typical bullshit. Detrimental to the morals of the community? Heh, what a way to word it. But if the notion of "detrimental to safety and health" was actually taken seriously, then none of those 6+ lane nasty car sewer roads would have been allowed to be built in so many residential neighborhoods (hello Blue Hill Avenue!).

What I find interesting in this article is that they claim that they need to relocate the Orange and Green lines. Again? Did anyone hear anything else about this?

why the hell would they have to do that?
 
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why the hell would they have to do that?

That's a generic reference to the whole footprint associated with the tracks, platforms, common areas, egresses, etc.

No one is moving Green or Orange Line tracks or platforms -- however there maybe emergency egresses moving and passageways realigned, etc.

Certainly one would hope that there will be an underground or otherwise weather resistant connection between the platforms and the TD Garden and the Commuter Rail -- no excuse for people having to go outside to go inside again
 
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This could be the biggest crock of shit I've ever read in my life.

Blighted? For menino to come out in support of this notion is insulting to the citizens of Boston that live in actual blight.

I'd challenge the applicant to present one other developer that wouldn't be willing to go all in on this parcel without this type of subsidy.

Charlie (and his father Jeremy) Jacobs seek millions in a hand-out from the tax-payers and then proceed to profit off of the stupidity that makes up bruins fan base. His concessions include $8 beers and $4.25 bottles of water.

I hope no liberals on here actually support this application. This is the face of greed.
 

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