The Hub on Causeway (née TD Garden Towers) | 80 Causeway Street | West End

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Aesthetically speaking, I think the residential building looks way better shorter especially with the spire on the office component.
 
Re: The Boston Garden (TD Garden Towers) | 80 Causeway Street | West End

lapradetom said:
Someone needs to remind all the obstructionist NIMBY types that the City of Boston already contains one of the best park systems in the country, and we already have an abundance of places to go and enjoy the views. Better yet, maybe we should impose a new "view tax" on those opposed to progress, to make up for the lost revenue that it costs the city when projects get downsized/scaled back/shorter because of their antics. (only those officially on record as opposed to progress will pay the tax)
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I can't believe I have to type this, but:

Reasonable discourse > taxing thoughts you disagree with
 
Re: The Boston Garden (TD Garden Towers) | 80 Causeway Street | West End

Brad Plaid said:
Is it better than before? Much, there is a lot less clashing between the towers. Is it iconic? Not really. The residential is nicer than it's getting credit for here, it's playing straight man to the showier office block. Wondering though what the likes of Koolhaas, Nouvel, Hadid, Foster would have done here. At any rate get 'er done.
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+1
My sentiments exactly--better than the earlier renderings but nothing amazing. Like the MT, its potential for street activation seems its strong suit.
 
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bigeman312 said:
I can't believe I have to type this, but:

Reasonable discourse > taxing thoughts you disagree with[/QUOTE

The tax idea was intended as purely satirical....and Reasonable discourse would be a dream come true, if Boston "neighborhood opposition" groups were actually reasonable. We can all agree that everyone is entitled to speak out in favor or against a development proposal......within reason. The amount of money that gets wasted by developers trying to build in Boston, and fighting just to get a damn apartment building built must be astronomical. It's insane! There is nothing reasonable about living in a large city, and wanting nothing built next to you...that is pure selfishness.
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lapradetom said:
The tax idea was intended as purely satirical....and Reasonable discourse would be a dream come true, if Boston "neighborhood opposition" groups were actually reasonable. We can all agree that everyone is entitled to speak out in favor or against a development proposal......within reason. The amount of money that gets wasted by developers trying to build in Boston, and fighting just to get a damn apartment building built must be astronomical. It's insane! There is nothing reasonable about living in a large city, and wanting nothing built next to you...that is pure selfishness.
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+1
 
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lapradetom said:
bigeman312 said:
I can't believe I have to type this, but:

Reasonable discourse > taxing thoughts you disagree with[/QUOTE

The tax idea was intended as purely satirical....and Reasonable discourse would be a dream come true, if Boston "neighborhood opposition" groups were actually reasonable. We can all agree that everyone is entitled to speak out in favor or against a development proposal......within reason. The amount of money that gets wasted by developers trying to build in Boston, and fighting just to get a damn apartment building built must be astronomical. It's insane! There is nothing reasonable about living in a large city, and wanting nothing built next to you...that is pure selfishness.
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I totally agree about the waste and selfishness, but people are entitled to speak out on absolutely anything they want well beyond the point of "reason" as long as they aren't directly inciting violence, and that's as it should be.
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GW said:
lapradetom said:
I totally agree about the waste and selfishness, but people are entitled to speak out on absolutely anything they want well beyond the point of "reason" as long as they aren't directly inciting violence, and that's as it should be.
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Sure, but political leadership (AKA what you'd like to see from the BRA, the mayor's office, etc) is about calling people out for saying that hot is cold.
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underground said:
GW said:
Sure, but political leadership (AKA what you'd like to see from the BRA, the mayor's office, etc) is about calling people out for saying that hot is cold.
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Not quite sure what you're getting at. I'm all for criticizing extremists and better leadership. All I'm saying is people have a right to be extremists.
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Downburst said:
BCDC will be reviewing Phases 2 & 3 tonight.

New rendering as well, I think:
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stick n move said:
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Why Boston, why?
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Setting aside from the height issue, I like the style in the revised version better.
 
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okay? thats old news at this point, neither of those will be built.
 
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lapradetom said:
bigeman312 said:
I can't believe I have to type this, but:

Reasonable discourse > taxing thoughts you disagree with[/QUOTE

The tax idea was intended as purely satirical....and Reasonable discourse would be a dream come true, if Boston "neighborhood opposition" groups were actually reasonable. We can all agree that everyone is entitled to speak out in favor or against a development proposal......within reason. The amount of money that gets wasted by developers trying to build in Boston, and fighting just to get a damn apartment building built must be astronomical. It's insane! There is nothing reasonable about living in a large city, and wanting nothing built next to you...that is pure selfishness.
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Big developers want opposition so they can prove their value as middlemen to investors. Most developers appear to try to nurture or provoke extreme opposition so as to make the reasonable opposition seem less reasonable. It is a political game.

The real perverse effect has been only the larger projects with political backing get built, while there are far too few of the smaller projects because they are too big to be built by right, but too small to be worth it to the large developers.
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Re: The Boston Garden (TD Garden Towers) | 80 Causeway Street | West End

It's almost an Art Deco statement with a modern twist. I like it.
 
Re: The Boston Garden (TD Garden Towers) | 80 Causeway Street | West End

It is also better than what is there right now, a parking lot.
 
Re: The Boston Garden (TD Garden Towers) | 80 Causeway Street | West End

Czervik.Construction said:
It is also better than what is there right now, a parking lot.
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Heck, even if just the first phase gets built it is better than what is there right now.

Edit: Speaking of which do we have renders of what just phase 1 looks like? I can visualize, but it would be good to see a render without the towers to see what is getting built first.
 
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stefalarchitect said:
Groundbreaking is Wednesday, according to an editor at Banker and Tradesman.

From Twitter:

https://twitter.com/steveadamstweet/status/690557788452450308
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Great news! A groundbreaking is some assurance that it's going vertical, and not in the dust bin. This shaky economy has me nervous that some of our hoped for projects may get stalled, and with spring coming, we need more "sprouts" to watch rise up. This project will make a nice addition to the "garden".
 
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