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ablarc, if you see someone who looks like they're trying incredibly hard to look like they're not trying . . . well, you're probably in the presence of a hipster.

^Love that Statler! PBR even made the cut!
 
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There is a better version of this idea somewhere. I'll post it if I can find it.

That pretty much sums it up. They are harder to spot in the suburbs, mostly in large diverse urban areas... living in the rougher parts; "slumming it".
 
Look like regular folk to me (except for the tattoos).
 
Anytime I try to explain/point out hipsters to anyone over 40 they are totally lost.
 
Thought some people may enjoy this article, one of the more entertaining pieces about hipsters I've read in a while.

Ablarc, how to define a hipster? Oy, where to begin...
 
i always wanted to be a hipster, but i am not pretentious enough to make the cut.
 
I can understand ablarc's confusion.
Any significantly popular trend or style slowly becomes co-oped by the general populous to point where it becomes almost indistinguishable from the original trendsetters. The hipster look has more or less reached that point.

BTW: This happened with hippies as well.
 
Fabulous article Itchy. Not only was it well-written but it does an excellent job of articulating all that is wrong with hipsters. Thanks for the link.
 
That article is borderline bogus. The shrill "the sky is falling" tone the author adopts for the whole piece is hard to take seriously, despite his making many good points. But please, hipsters are not the dead-end of western civilization. We've heard these same cries how many times before? Generation X, hippies (who for the most part morphed into the Me Generation), beatniks, bohemians.... we're still here and doing pretty well, aren't we?
 
Yeah, we're still doing well, but probably no thanks to them. They were just the cultural icing on the social cake.
 
The Gallows is an independently owned South End neighborhood local, focused on hospitality and featuring contemporary frugal Yankee cuisine.

Replaces Sage on Washington Street in the South End across from Church of the Cathedral.
 
Boston Metro - April 9, 2010
Taking time to make bar look its best
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Stoddard?s will serve traditional cask conditioned ale and authentic cocktails.
Photo: NICOLAUS CZARNECKI/METRO


Stoddard?s Fine Food and Ale?s shifting opening date is the biggest tease since the swinging Big Dig budget. The new bar and restaurant on the Ladder District?s Temple Place was originally set to debut last December. Finally, over two years since William Ashmore and his partners signed the lease, it will open Wednesday.

Ashmore, who co-owns nearby Ivy restaurant, planned Stoddard?s opening for September 2008. That might have happened had he simply renovated the former Chandler?s corset store in the usual fashion. Instead, he committed to doing the work himself to preserve the 1868 Greek revival building?s original features and create an early 20th century hostelry.

?We had to be in control at all times to make sure that everything found was preserved,? Ashmore said. ?You can?t re-create some of the pieces we?ve uncovered. One beam we pulled out and made a waiting bench out of it exactly as they would then. It came out beautiful. ... We did a phenomenal job, it?s truly authentic. Anyone who says otherwise can see the footage of it stripped down to bare timber.?

All original

Stoddard?s is located at 48 Temple Place. The previous tenant, Stoddard?s Fine Cutlery, moved in around 1930, but little modernization was done, thus preserving original features and materials.
 
AMAZING.

Living within 5 minutes walk of 5 great bars, it takes a lot to get me downtown to drink. This will do it.
 
Sugar Heaven is now open on Boylston Street across from BPL. Perfect location for post-Marathon runners!
 
Stoddard's looks like a good place for an ArchBOSTON cocktail hour...
 
I can understand ablarc's confusion.
Any significantly popular trend or style slowly becomes co-oped by the general populous to point where it becomes almost indistinguishable from the original trendsetters. The hipster look has more or less reached that point.

BTW: This happened with hippies as well.

Maybe we need a separate hipster thread?

From NPR:
New York's Hipsters Too Cool For The Census
by Robert Smith

April 10, 2010

Weekend Edition Saturday

Many New York City residents aren't returning their census forms. The return rate is only around 50 percent, but the lowest rate of return (around 30 percent) is the hipster enclave of Williamsburg, Brooklyn. These young, recent graduates with ironic mustaches and plaid shirts are apparently too busy tweeting to fill out a simple census form.


(Soundbite of music)

SCOTT SIMON, host:

This is WEEKEND EDITION from NPR News. I'm Scott Simon. If you haven't returned your U.S. census form yet - you know who you are - youve got company. About a third of the households in the country haven't yet returned that envelope and in big cities, including New York, the response rate is even worse.

Only half of the households in New York have bothered. Now, traditionally, poor and immigrant neighborhoods have been the hardest ones to count. But NPR's Robert Smith reports that New York's worse census neighborhood is an unlikely one.

ROBERT SMITH: The biggest census procrastinators in New York City happen to live in the most self-consciously hip neighborhood: Williamsburg, Brooklyn. Williamsburg is a magnet for kids just out of college, home of indie bands and ironic mustaches, wacky bikes and skinny jeans, and honest to goodness record stores like this one, Academy Annex.

(Soundbite of music)

SMITH: Two 20-somethings, Nate and Mike, are working behind the counter. They share an apartment and should be sharing a census form, but...

MIKE: Did we get the forms?

Mr. NATE STARK: Yeah.

MIKE: We did. I didnt see any yet.

Mr. STARK: We still get mail from the past 30 people that have lived there. So it's like who knows if people are getting these.

SMITH: Well, actually the census knows. These few blocks around Wythe Avenue and 6th Street have about a 36 percent return rate.

Nate Stark has an explanation.

Mr. STARK: I guess it's laziness and like, what's the point? When it comes down to it, nobody wants to fill out like another form that's just like getting sent to your house that really relatively has nothing to do with your life.

SMITH: He thinks the young people just haven't been given a good enough reason to fill out the census.

Mr. STARK: I mean people would do if they got like five bucks.

SMITH: Five bucks?

Mr. STARK: Yeah. Or if there was like more than just like a piece of paper that's like you have to do this or you could get in trouble, which no one will get in trouble; that's why they dont do it.

SMITH: The Census Bureau is spending $133 million on advertising in dozens of languages telling people that the census is their civic duty, that it helps get federal funding in their communities, but the message isn't sinking in here in Williamsburg.

Just outside the record store, I meet Jamie Lilly. She knows the ads. She got the form but she thinks that returning it is just supporting a government that she doesnt believe in.

Ms. JAMIE LILLY: You know, on a personal note, maybe some people, they figure what's the point to be counted if you dont count for much anyway? If we dont count, why be counted?

SMITHZ; Now, this isn't the case for the whole neighborhood. If you walk toward the new glass condo buildings, you'll find that participation in the census takes off. In the other direction, return rates plunge. And you can't blame it all on the cool kids. This is the Hasidic part of Williamsburg, where the Satmar Orthodox Jews live. Only one quarter of households here so far have participated. Not only are they reluctant to fill out the census, they dont even want to talk about it.

SMITH: Excuse me, sir. I'm a news reporter asking people about the census. Did you fill out the census?

Unidentified Man: I do not know about that.

SMITH: The man, dressed head to toe in black, tells me that they dont listen to the radio and they certainly dont do radio interviews. As for the census, he waves his hand. Too busy, he says.

Stephen Levin, the city councilmember for Williamsburg, says they're working to get the word out to the Hasidim through grassroots community groups, although census ads mean little if you dont actually watch TV.

Councilmember STEPHEN LEVIN (Williamsburg, New York): Because the word gets around through word of mouth and not through the mass media in that community, it just takes a little bit longer for those things to come about.

SMITH: And maybe that's what these two parts of procrastinating Williamsburg have in common: susceptibility to peer pressure. If you see your neighbors doing it, if it actually becomes cool to fill out the census, then maybe Williamsburg will be counted.

Robert Smith, NPR News, Brooklyn.
 

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