The Victor | 110 Beverly Street | West End

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I really like these buildings and when they're all built out, like underground said, they're gonna be a great addition to the area!
 
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underground said:
The back end is where One Canal is going. With the Merano on the side towards the NE, the only really exposed end will be Causeway.
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This. It's already putting the Avenir to shame (IMO) on the side that counts.
 
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I think the Avenir's only real sin is that we've seen it before. A million times. Other than that, is a plus filler building and will get better as the ground floor spots get occupied and the North Station Towers become the focal point of that stretch of street.
 
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^I love that in the rendering at that link they've made the yellow, ribbed precast panels look like grey stone. It's as if the marketing team took one look at the rendering and was like, "Shit, we need to show pictures of that! Bring in the photoshop specialists."
 
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Am I the only one who finds it inoffensive?
 
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czsz said:
Am I the only one who finds it inoffensive?
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No. Head scratching paneling plus nice glass averages out to inoffensive. If they'd upgrade the paneling even slightly, it might even move into the "nice" category.
 
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It's not that any particular design element is especially awful, but the whole package is an offensive and lazy landscraper.

In fact I do think landacrapers can indeed work in an urban context BUT they need to be dripping with design detail and oozing urbanity.
 
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I get what they are doing, trying to make a superblock not look like it is a superblock. The end result though is a disaster. It's too bad this site couldn't have been three separate parcels with three different designers. Jane Jacobs would be ashamed.
 
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It's the manilla ribbed precast that kills me.
Plus light-colored, textured precast concrete = age poorly.
 
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underground said:
No. Head scratching paneling plus nice glass averages out to inoffensive. If they'd upgrade the paneling even slightly, it might even move into the "nice" category.
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Agreed. My overall feeling is just one thumb down, but that putrid yellow-beige precast always throws me off-balance.
 
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I have to drive beneath this tub of shit every night on the way home. A site this prominent called for a work of architecture, not another inhabitable massing model.
 
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Beton Brut said:
I have to drive beneath this tub of shit every night on the way home. A site this prominent called for a work of architecture, not another inhabitable massing model.
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This, a thousand times.
 
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Many posters call me negative for banging the "quality drum" all the time, but I really do think that this stuff matters. What a city allows to be built, or in the case of the BRA under Kairos Shen, encourages to be built, speaks volumes about the value that a city places on the built environment. When you green-light (or tolerate) disposable design like what we see here, you're sending a message that quality is a commodity on a sliding scale rather than a universal goal.

What do I think we should be building in the Bulfinch Triangle? How about something like this?
 
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The Bulfinch Triangle wasn't known for particularly distinguished architecture before the Artery sliced through. The successor buildings are all contemporary versions of the basic 19th century warehouse and commercial buildings that preceded them. I'm really not so choked up about the lack of starchitecture here, and I think the Victor looks more like a banal background building than an urban atrocity. Am I missing something?
 
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czsz said:
The Bulfinch Triangle wasn't known for particularly distinguished architecture before the Artery sliced through. The successor buildings are all contemporary versions of the basic 19th century warehouse and commercial buildings that preceded them. I'm really not so choked up about the lack of starchitecture here, and I think the Victor looks more like a banal background building than an urban atrocity. Am I missing something?
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No and quite frankly this is just the type of design that should be built here. I hate bland landscrapers as much as the next person on here but this is a good place for them since when it's all built out you aren't even going to see them.
 
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