The Viridian (Fenway McDonald's) | 1282 Boylston Street | Fenway

^that new rendering better fits the name with those random blue-green panels whatever those are
 
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Yesss another building that looks like it took more than one cup of coffee to design! The tan parts look like they're of the same material as 315 on A (good) and the grey parts might be Alucobond (bad). Either way here's hoping the Abbey Group doesn't cheap out on materials.
 
kz1000ps said:
Carrying over the new rendering to the new page...



Yesss another building that looks like it took more than one cup of coffee to design! The tan parts look like they're of the same material as 315 on A (good) and the grey parts might be Alucobond (bad). Either way here's hoping the Abbey Group doesn't cheap out on materials.
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Done and Done --- gotta save the bits -- however stored -- pixels on the other hand are photons and so the statistics and energetics are different

Kz -- I hope there's room for a 2 story -- Mickey D's -- complete with a nice big Arch -- we don need no stinkin white table restaurants next to Fenway Park
 
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Agreed that food options need to stay affordable, but could you edit the quote so we don't look at the same image twice in a row?
 
Kz -- I hope there's room for a 2 story -- Mickey D's -- complete with a nice big Arch -- we don need no stinkin white table restaurants next to Fenway Park
 
atlantaden said:
The glass panels are Juliet balconies.
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That's an Abbey Group thing. One block over on Peterborough Street they have Landmark Square and most of those units have Juliet balconies as well. I like this latest design, although I'm curious to see a few other vantage points of the thing.

How nice would it be if these units, Boylston West, Landmark Center Expansion, Skanska's Burger King site, and The Point had a measurable impact on the affordability of housing in the Fenway? The recent BBJ story about the 9% drop in average rents for the Seaport was promising.
 
dshoost88 said:
That's an Abbey Group thing. One block over on Peterborough Street they have Landmark Square and most of those units have Juliet balconies as well. I like this latest design, although I'm curious to see a few other vantage points of the thing.

How nice would it be if these units, Boylston West, Landmark Center Expansion, Skanska's Burger King site, and The Point had a measurable impact on the affordability of housing in the Fenway? The recent BBJ story about the 9% drop in average rents for the Seaport was promising.
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I'm guessing it will have the opposite impact. It's gentrification on steroids... all the units from the new buildings will be some form of "luxury", all the sidewalks will be wider and tree-lined, there will be high end restaurants, and a high end grocery store (Wegmans). None of that screams "cheaper" to me.

Edit: Compare Fenway from 2005 to what Fenway will look like in 2015 with all of these projects done. The slight increase in supply will be totally outweighed by the large increase in demand from the population increase, improved public spaces, better night life, and a shift away in focus from the baseball stadium.
 
There's no affordable housing policy quite as effective as "ghettoification", eh?
 
Yeah, I'm confused. If building more housing supply just gentrifies and raises prices further still, in spite of added inventory, through what method can prices be lowered? Or is the hypothesis that they can't be?
 
BussesAin'tTrains said:
Yeah, I'm confused. If building more housing supply just gentrifies and raises prices further still, in spite of added inventory, through what method can prices be lowered? Or is the hypothesis that they can't be?
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If all these buildings were 400sqft studios or 600sqft 1br apartments, and twice as tall, then we might have enough affordable units to make a dent in rents. As it is now, they're all high-end.

I've read that the housing demand in Boston increases by about 10,000 units per year. Fenway's share of that is obviously much smaller, lets say 500/year. According to the BRA, the major projects in Fenway under construction and/or approved add up to ~1600 units coming on the market over the next 1-3 years. So assuming a 500 units/year increase in demand, these projects are barely enough to break even.

Then there's the induced demand from these projects by making the area more pedestrian friendly, having an increased amount of restaurants/bars, and having nicer public spaces. Ten years ago Fenway was way seedier than it is now. In another ten years it will be gentrified beyond recognition, with rent prices to match.
 
The way I see it,

  1. Supply has to increase broadly, not just in one area, but region-wide
  2. Neighborhood improvements need to be done broadly as well -- if just one neighborhood gets better, then of course everyone will want to move there
  3. The playing field needs to be made easier for small developers -- bureaucratic red-tape such as zoning was created, in part, to keep the small timer out. It needs to be reformed
 
dshoost88 said:
That's an Abbey Group thing. One block over on Peterborough Street they have Landmark Square and most of those units have Juliet balconies as well. I like this latest design, although I'm curious to see a few other vantage points of the thing.

How nice would it be if these units, Boylston West, Landmark Center Expansion, Skanska's Burger King site, and The Point had a measurable impact on the affordability of housing in the Fenway? The recent BBJ story about the 9% drop in average rents for the Seaport was promising.
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I am missing something with the Burger King site, I didn't know they were going to be replacing it.
 
FenwayResident said:
If all these buildings were 400sqft studios or 600sqft 1br apartments, and twice as tall, then we might have enough affordable units to make a dent in rents.
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Which is why I truly love that Copley Tower about to break ground and hope there is more of THAT in the future.
 
Construction newbie question... is this a different type of construction than having a reinforced concrete core? I don't recall seeing any other pictures with those braces going across the top of the dig site.
 
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