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Without knowing Rifleman's thoughts on the casino itself, I think people overestimate their impact on the surrounding area. Everett is too dumpy and too far away from the middle Boston, which is where conventioneers want to be. Putting a casino there no matter how much effort Wynn puts into styling it isn't going to take the place of that. Casinos are no longer a novelty. Then people seriously start thinking Wynn is going to pony up billions to improve transit out of the goodness of his own heart (I've actually seen people comment like this oi the Glob). Like that express monorail from the classic Simpson's episode going between Everett and downtown. :eek:

People can gamble all they want for all I care. But lets be clear headed about this place. Yachts aren't going to be sailing up the Mystic to get to it. It'll draw the scratch ticket crowd and various other oldies, not turn Everett into Vegas.
 
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Rover said:
Without knowing Rifleman's thoughts on the casino itself, I think people overestimate their impact on the surrounding area. Everett is too dumpy and too far away from the middle Boston, which is where conventioneers want to be. Putting a casino there no matter how much effort Wynn puts into styling it isn't going to take the place of that. Casinos are no longer a novelty. Then people seriously start thinking Wynn is going to pony up billions to improve transit out of the goodness of his own heart (I've actually seen people comment like this oi the Glob). Like that express monorail from the classic Simpson's episode going between Everett and downtown. :eek:

People can gamble all they want for all I care. But lets be clear headed about this place. Yachts aren't going to be sailing up the Mystic to get to it. It'll draw the scratch ticket crowd and various other oldies, not turn Everett into Vegas.
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I agree wynn is going to invest in as little infrastructure as possible. He probably looks at that as the state and the mbta need to draft a vision for the overall state and take some responsibility.

Yes.... Everett is dumpy in certain areas. But Everett is starting to shift in renters from poor immigrants to yuppies over the last couple of years. The rents are somewhat reasonable in the area and it's close to the city of Boston.

Wynn is buying as much properties as he can which shifts my theory on a bigger grand plan for him. Everett property is dirt cheap compared to its border friends Somerville, Charlestown, Medford, which he believes will increase overtime.

I would bet when this casino opens it will be the highest grossing casino/entertainment venue in the United States because of the location near Boston. He needs to gear the entertainment venue for the weekends and the scratch ticket crowd for the weekdays.

believe me if yachts can fit in the mystic docks at the casino there will be. This will be The Who's who in the city and state.

I agree the casinos are dying but it's just the location and the entire Boston workforce will be geared up to let off steam at the casino to look at some hot women
 
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Think of this: it cost at least $600,000 for 2 bedroom in the seaport not including condo fees.

In Everett you could probably find a multi-unit for that price and it only takes 10mins to get to the seaport by car without traffic.
 
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If Wynn does buy the Gateway plaza, and you'd have to imagine he has an eye on it, what would he do with it?
The site is way too small for a resort style 18 hole golf course. I could see him expanding conference facilities as well as adding rooms. He's already turning the lack of interest in high end retail into conference space. He could undercut (rather than replace) the BCEC or Hynes and he would have a ready supply of customers for his casino/retail/restaurants.
I dont think a Boston Harbor casino and conference center would be a hard sell to conference organizers who aren't from New England.
I don't think he's going for the scratchcard crowd.
 
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TheRifleman said:
Think of this: it cost at least $600,000 for 2 bedroom in the seaport not including condo fees.

In Everett you could probably find a multi-unit for that price and it only takes 10mins to get to the seaport by car without traffic.
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So around 3 am, ignore or be really lucky with traffic lights and going twice the speed limit down Broadway?
 
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Ruairi said:
If Wynn does buy the Gateway plaza, and you'd have to imagine he has an eye on it, what would he do with it?
The site is way too small for a resort style 18 hole golf course. I could see him expanding conference facilities as well as adding rooms. He's already turning the lack of interest in high end retail into conference space. He could undercut (rather than replace) the BCEC or Hynes and he would have a ready supply of customers for his casino/retail/restaurants.
I dont think a Boston Harbor casino and conference center would be a hard sell to conference organizers who aren't from New England.
I don't think he's going for the scratchcard crowd.
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Casinos always go for the scratch ticket crowd unless they're truly resort destinations like Vegas, Monte Carlo or Macau. Its their bread and butter.

I also think you're being a bit liberal with the "Boston Harbor casino" designation, don't you?

Any addition land purchases = expanded gambling. Casinos always pitch stuff like golf courses and retail, but that's not how they bring in the $$$. Otherwise the facility would be all retail. Once they're in, those non-gambling ideas tend to get turfed. That's smart business on their part, but again I come back to it. Don't expect Wynn to forgo a more lucrative option for his land in order to provide a public amenity.
 
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Rover said:
Without knowing Rifleman's thoughts on the casino itself, I think people overestimate their impact on the surrounding area. Everett is too dumpy and too far away from the middle Boston, which is where conventioneers want to be. Putting a casino there no matter how much effort Wynn puts into styling it isn't going to take the place of that. Casinos are no longer a novelty. Then people seriously start thinking Wynn is going to pony up billions to improve transit out of the goodness of his own heart (I've actually seen people comment like this oi the Glob). Like that express monorail from the classic Simpson's episode going between Everett and downtown. :eek:

People can gamble all they want for all I care. But lets be clear headed about this place. Yachts aren't going to be sailing up the Mystic to get to it. It'll draw the scratch ticket crowd and various other oldies, not turn Everett into Vegas.
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No, not vegas... and probably not a large convention center destination anytime soon. Although the hotel adds 1000 hotel rooms less than 15 minutes from the existing convention center by uber/shuttle bus. Those hotel rooms are needed.

I wouldn't underestimate the potential for improvement of the immediate area that this brings. If people can enjoy walking around the area without having to get back into their cars, then the economic benefits will extend well beyond the property line with the potential for new hotels, more shops, restaurants and other entertainment options.

And yes it is all just "potential" unless the municipalities and state can work with Wynn and the other landowners to make good things happen there...
 
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Rover said:
People can gamble all they want for all I care. But lets be clear headed about this place. Yachts aren't going to be sailing up the Mystic to get to it. It'll draw the scratch ticket crowd and various other oldies, not turn Everett into Vegas.
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I agree, yachts might not be sailing up the Mystic river but don't kid yourself, Wynn isn't going for the scratch ticket crowd. Sure, he'll encourage them to come but you'll have to have some bucks to stay here, eat here, hang out here. Wynn is building this as a resort destination. Lots of weddings will be held here, restaurants will be packed, it'll draw crowds from all over the area just for the sheer novelty. Whether or not it's successful over time is anyone's guess though I'm betting it'll be a hit. btw, those various other oldies you mentioned have lots of disposable money, they might just play the slots but they'll be spending that money in the restaurants and lounges.


http://www.wynnbostonharbor.com/about-us/hotel-esplanade/
 
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TheRifleman said:
believe me if yachts can fit in the mystic docks at the casino there will be. This will be The Who's who in the city and state
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Maybe a couple times a year for a concert/fundraiser or event, but I think the "who's who" is going to stay in the South End/Back Bay or Seaport the vast majority of the time.
 
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Reznor said:
Maybe a couple times a year for a concert/fundraiser or event, but I think the "who's who" is going to stay in the South End/Back Bay or Seaport the vast majority of the time.
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I would put my life savings that wynn resort will be the place to be compared to the back bay/south end. The back bay and the south end will be geared for a quiet night out with your wife or girlfriend.

Wynn casino will be were the action is on Friday and Saturday night Live entertainment, beautiful women, high end prostitutes, partying, night out with girls, if your a bunch of guys this is where your heading now, not the back bay at whiskey priest.

Wynn is going to crush it. Boston never experienced a real fun nightlife. Everett decided to take that action.
I'm curious what time the alcohol gets shut off
Everyone dressed to the nines
 
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Wynn, Mystic River will be one of the go-to sites for business men and women who might want to be naughty,
or flirt with the temptation in that hotel space with a funky pulse.
 
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TheRifleman said:
I would put my life savings that wynn resort will be the place to be compared to the back bay/south end. The back bay and the south end will be geared for a quiet night out with your wife or girlfriend.

Wynn casino will be were the action is on Friday and Saturday night Live entertainment, beautiful women, high end prostitutes, partying, night out with girls, if your a bunch of guys this is where your heading now, not the back bay at whiskey priest.

Wynn is going to crush it. Boston never experienced a real fun nightlife. Everett decided to take that action.
I'm curious what time the alcohol gets shut off
Everyone dressed to the nines
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You had me at high end prostitutes...no but seriously that's a bold prediction.
 
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Not everyone does the same thing. There will be plenty of bars on Boylston doing just fine after this opens.
 
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Coyote137 said:
Not everyone does the same thing. There will be plenty of bars on Boylston doing just fine after this opens.
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I think we will see a lot of bars & restaurants hurt from Wynn Casino. We might see a consolidation for a couple of years.

Boston nightlife is going to feel some pain including some of the surrounding areas. (Unless Wynn does not have Club type atmosphere) Wynn has the opportunity to monopolize Boston Nightlife across the board,
Highend, lowend Sports, Cowboy's, Ect. A-List performances,

Assembly Row--Expect--- Earls, Legals, Outback, Papagayo to go out of business.
 
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TheRifleman said:
I think we will see a lot of bars & restaurants hurt from Wynn Casino. We might see a consolidation for a couple of years.

Boston nightlife is going to feel some pain including some of the surrounding areas. (Unless Wynn does not have Club type atmosphere) Wynn has the opportunity to monopolize Boston Nightlife across the board,
Highend, lowend Sports, Cowboy's,

Assembly Row--Expect--- Earls, Legals, Outback, Papagayo to go out of business.
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I'm a gambling man, Rifleman, so I have a proposition for you. I will wager that:
i. The majority of Assembly Row's restaurant retail will not go out of business in the next 5 years.
ii. Boston nightlife will continue to thrive, and Wynn will not have a monopoly on nightlife across the region.
iii. Back Bay and South End businesses in particular will not only maintain their current reputation, but also continue to expand upon them during the time that Wynn opens because the market is large enough that both can exist.

Name your terms, we can reconvene April 28th, 2022 (5 years from now) to evaluate who was right/wrong.
 
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dshoost88 said:
I'm a gambling man, Rifleman, so I have a proposition for you. I will wager that:
i. The majority of Assembly Row's restaurant retail will not go out of business in the next 5 years.
ii. Boston nightlife will continue to thrive, and Wynn will not have a monopoly on nightlife across the region.
iii. Back Bay and South End businesses in particular will not only maintain their current reputation, but also continue to expand upon them during the time that Wynn opens because the market is large enough that both can exist.

Name your terms, we can reconvene April 28th, 2022 (5 years from now) to evaluate who was right/wrong.
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That's pretty broad bet. There needs to be something specific like.

I will bet you Earls either relocates, changes there name or goes out of business within 5 years after the casino opens.

Remember I was the guy who predicted Trump was going to win the election.
 
Re: Wynn Everett Casino | Everett

What will be the liquor hours/ operating hours of this place?
 
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GW2500 said:
What will be the liquor hours/ operating hours of this place?
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2AM... consistent with rest of the state. More info in this article.

No Clubbing in Boston

Wynn Boston Harbor will unsurprisingly feature plenty of non-casino options catering to various demographics. In addition to the casino and five restaurants, the resort will come with “The Shops at Wynn,” a retail extravaganza featuring many of the world’s most esteemed fashion designers and jewelers.
Wynn Boston will also feature a spa and hope to attract both businesses and weddings to its expansive convention space.
What one won’t find at the $2 billion facility is a nightclub.
Last October, Wynn scrapped plans for nightlife entertainment due to local alcohol laws. Massachusetts prevents all bars and clubs from operating past 2 am, a time when Wynn says the millennials are just getting started.
“In Las Vegas, you can keep the bars open all night,” Wynn Everett President Robert DeSalvio said last fall. “Here you can’t. We fairly quickly came to the understanding it was not in the cards.”
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