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Re: Driven By Customer 'Service' Parte Dos
Philly's population (1.5 M) within the city limits of 143 Sq. Mi) are just Boston (617,594 within city limits of 48.43 square miles) + the inside of Rt-128 or so -- after you leave Broad Street and the CBD the density in Philly falls off fairly quickly to Arlington-scale
Fewer people work in downtown Philly than do in FID + Back Bay in Boston and surroundings -- when you throw in Cambridge probably nearly twice as many people work in Boston than do in Philly proper
Heavy rail systems
Rank System Year opened Weekdayridership Date Route mile Riders/mile
1 New York City 1904 7,512,100 2010 Q1 229 33,786
2 Mexico City Metro 1969 3,860,000 1993 110 40,000
3 Montreal Metro 1966 1,111,700 2011 Q1 40.6 27,388
4 Toronto subway 1954 948,100 2010 Q1 38 24,950
5 Washington Metro 1976 919,300 2010 Q1 106.3 9,660
6 Chicago 'L' 1892 638,100 2010 Q1 136.7 4,687
7 MBTA Boston 1897 478,600 2010 Q1 65.5 7,417
8 SkyTrain Vancouver 1985 426,500 2010 Q1 43 9,918
9 BART San Francisco 1972 343,200 2010 Q1 104 3,681
10 SEPTA Philadelphia 1907 314,800 2010 Q1 25 12,720
Light rail systems:
Rank System Daily boardings Route miles boardings/mile As of Opened
1 MBTA Green Line + Ashmont–Mattapan High Speed Line 233,300 25.4 mi + 2.6 mi 8,332 Q4 2011 1897
2 San Francisco Muni Metro and F Market Line 162,400 36.8 mi + 8.8 mi 3,561 Q4 2011 1912, 1878
3 Los Angeles County Metro Rail Blue Line, Green Line and Gold Line 154,500 61.7 mi 2,504 Q4 2011 1990
4 MAX Light Rail Portland 126,500 53 mi 2,387 Q4 2011 1986
5 SEPTA Subway-Surface Lines,Suburban Trolley Lines, and Girard Avenue Trolley* 110,100 60 mi 1,835 Q4 2011 1906
6 San Diego Trolley 103,400 53.5 mi 1,933 Q4 2011 1981
7 DART: Red, Green, and Blue lines MATA streetcar Dallas 83,400 72 mi
3.6 mi 1,103 Q4 2011 1996
8 Denver RTD, The Ride Light Rail 65,800 35 mi 1,880 Q4 2011 1994
9 UTA TRAX Salt Lake City 59,100 35.3 mi 1,674 Q4 2011 1999
10 MetroLink St. Louis 52,300 46 mi 1,137 Q4 2011 1993
CR systems:
Rank System Metropolitan area Province / State Daily Ridership (weekday)
1) Long Island Rail Road New York City–Long Island New York 352,000
2) Metra Chicago Illinois / Wisconsin 304,700
3) New Jersey Transit Rail Operations North Jersey; New York City
Philadelphia – Atlantic City New Jersey / New York / Pennsylvania 301,746
4) Metro-North Railroad New York City; New Haven; Poughkeepsie New York / Connecticut 298,500
5) GO Transit Toronto–Golden Horseshoe Ontario 180,000
6) MBTA Commuter Rail Boston Massachusetts / Rhode Island 130,600
7) SEPTA Regional Rail Philadelphia Pennsylvania/New Jersey/Delaware 127,200
8) Agence métropolitaine de transport Montreal Quebec 66,100
9) Caltrain San Francisco–San Jose California 41,100
100 Metrolink Los Angeles–Southern California California 39,600
11) MARC Train Baltimore–Washington, DC Maryland / West Virginia 33,700
I had no trouble riding their system. The one odd thing was how EMPTY it was. Philly is many time bigger than Boston, where the hell are the people?....
Philly's population (1.5 M) within the city limits of 143 Sq. Mi) are just Boston (617,594 within city limits of 48.43 square miles) + the inside of Rt-128 or so -- after you leave Broad Street and the CBD the density in Philly falls off fairly quickly to Arlington-scale
Fewer people work in downtown Philly than do in FID + Back Bay in Boston and surroundings -- when you throw in Cambridge probably nearly twice as many people work in Boston than do in Philly proper
Heavy rail systems
Rank System Year opened Weekdayridership Date Route mile Riders/mile
1 New York City 1904 7,512,100 2010 Q1 229 33,786
2 Mexico City Metro 1969 3,860,000 1993 110 40,000
3 Montreal Metro 1966 1,111,700 2011 Q1 40.6 27,388
4 Toronto subway 1954 948,100 2010 Q1 38 24,950
5 Washington Metro 1976 919,300 2010 Q1 106.3 9,660
6 Chicago 'L' 1892 638,100 2010 Q1 136.7 4,687
7 MBTA Boston 1897 478,600 2010 Q1 65.5 7,417
8 SkyTrain Vancouver 1985 426,500 2010 Q1 43 9,918
9 BART San Francisco 1972 343,200 2010 Q1 104 3,681
10 SEPTA Philadelphia 1907 314,800 2010 Q1 25 12,720
Light rail systems:
Rank System Daily boardings Route miles boardings/mile As of Opened
1 MBTA Green Line + Ashmont–Mattapan High Speed Line 233,300 25.4 mi + 2.6 mi 8,332 Q4 2011 1897
2 San Francisco Muni Metro and F Market Line 162,400 36.8 mi + 8.8 mi 3,561 Q4 2011 1912, 1878
3 Los Angeles County Metro Rail Blue Line, Green Line and Gold Line 154,500 61.7 mi 2,504 Q4 2011 1990
4 MAX Light Rail Portland 126,500 53 mi 2,387 Q4 2011 1986
5 SEPTA Subway-Surface Lines,Suburban Trolley Lines, and Girard Avenue Trolley* 110,100 60 mi 1,835 Q4 2011 1906
6 San Diego Trolley 103,400 53.5 mi 1,933 Q4 2011 1981
7 DART: Red, Green, and Blue lines MATA streetcar Dallas 83,400 72 mi
3.6 mi 1,103 Q4 2011 1996
8 Denver RTD, The Ride Light Rail 65,800 35 mi 1,880 Q4 2011 1994
9 UTA TRAX Salt Lake City 59,100 35.3 mi 1,674 Q4 2011 1999
10 MetroLink St. Louis 52,300 46 mi 1,137 Q4 2011 1993
CR systems:
Rank System Metropolitan area Province / State Daily Ridership (weekday)
1) Long Island Rail Road New York City–Long Island New York 352,000
2) Metra Chicago Illinois / Wisconsin 304,700
3) New Jersey Transit Rail Operations North Jersey; New York City
Philadelphia – Atlantic City New Jersey / New York / Pennsylvania 301,746
4) Metro-North Railroad New York City; New Haven; Poughkeepsie New York / Connecticut 298,500
5) GO Transit Toronto–Golden Horseshoe Ontario 180,000
6) MBTA Commuter Rail Boston Massachusetts / Rhode Island 130,600
7) SEPTA Regional Rail Philadelphia Pennsylvania/New Jersey/Delaware 127,200
8) Agence métropolitaine de transport Montreal Quebec 66,100
9) Caltrain San Francisco–San Jose California 41,100
100 Metrolink Los Angeles–Southern California California 39,600
11) MARC Train Baltimore–Washington, DC Maryland / West Virginia 33,700
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