MA Casino Developments

Jahvon -- Wynn's folks are still negotiating with the MA EPA folks about how many barrels of dirt need to be removed from whre versus caps of how thick, remediation in place, etc.

it's the old I'll trade you 500 more barrels of dirt to be carted off in exchange for the the the northern corner of the western boundary of the site that needs to be capped being shifted 3' southwards

There are still a few more of these agreements to be signed sealed and delivered before the first of the dirt starts to move


Sounds all like politics, red tape & BS to me.

All this technical crap. I want to be able to gamble in Ma., but more than that, I want to at least get a job out there doing light duty work or something!

There will be jobs to be had, both in construction, and when the place is about to open for business.
 
Sounds all like politics, red tape & BS to me.

All this technical crap. I want to be able to gamble in Ma., but more than that, I want to at least get a job out there doing light duty work or something!

There will be jobs to be had, both in construction, and when the place is about to open for business.

RED TAPE and BS? I guess you really don't know how contaminated the land is in the area. Monsanto was dumping and burying toxic chemicals in this area. I'm actually surprised they are going to be able to build on the land.

It took like 20 extra years for the developer to build the Fridays, HomeDepot, Target development on the other Monsanto Site. 20 years of Landfill going in and out of the area. It was crazy.

Remember that Movies with John Travolta about the Woburn Water (Civil Action or something) This area is really bad.

I'm actually shocked that our elected representatives let Monsanto walk away from the land. A lot of People got Cancer living near Monsanto. It could be coincidence but I heard a certain generation on certain streets in the village near Best Buy & Mellon bank got sometype of cancer.

I'm not scientist but Monsanto Track record is not good they are like the Corporation of Death
 
RED TAPE and BS? I guess you really don't know how contaminated the land is in the area. Monsanto was dumping and burying toxic chemicals in this area. I'm actually surprised they are going to be able to build on the land.

It took like 20 extra years for the developer to build the Fridays, HomeDepot, Target development on the other Monsanto Site. 20 years of Landfill going in and out of the area. It was crazy.

Remember that Movies with John Travolta about the Woburn Water (Civil Action or something) This area is really bad.

I'm actually shocked that our elected representatives let Monsanto walk away from the land. A lot of People got Cancer living near Monsanto. It could be coincidence but I heard a certain generation on certain streets in the village near Best Buy & Mellon bank got sometype of cancer.

I'm not scientist but Monsanto Track record is not good they are like the Corporation of Death

Riff -- its virtually impossible to prove cause and effect with chemical exposure and cancer -- most cancers take a long time to develop [typically 20 to 30 years] and in the intervening time between the suspected exposure and the detection of the disease a lot of things happen such as people move, they change jobs, change diets, etc.

I was at a seminar once [couple of decades ago] on challenge [data wise] in the epidemiology of cancer and chemicals -- the conclusion at the time was that only a single case was really iron-clad and it was bizarrely unique and almost a test case.

It seems that during Viet Nam there were two Navy Air Depots processing Phantom-IIs before they headed back to service. One on the east coast used a traditional degreasing process, the other on the west coast was using a new process with Trichloroethane wash.

The people being exposed in the two places were the same -- typical Naval Aviation Tech, same ages, ranks, prior deployment histories, some even had transferred between the two facilities. The only difference was that some were exposed to a lot of trichloroethane solvent [young guys they sometimes horsed around spraying the stuff everywhere]. Some significant number of the west coast guys were diagnosed with a particularly rare form of testicular cancer which normally only occurs in older men. Bingo -- it looked as if cause and effect was proven. Since the late 80's when I was at the seminar there might have been a few more -- but by and large the rest is just anecdotes.

Nonetheless -- the EPA has been requiring massive amounts of remediation whenever the site is found to contain any of a fairly large number of heavy metals, other toxic elements such as arsenic and volatile organics. Given as there was industry in Everett for a few hundred years -- there could be a lot of stuff in the ground.
 
Looks like another years-long-Big-Dig-type project.

If the land is that badly damaged from chemicals & toxic stuff, then one would think that it should've been decontaminated & cleaned up years ago. :eek:
 
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Looks like another years-long-Big-Dig-type project.

If the land is that badly damaged from chemicals & toxic stuff, then one would think that it should've be decontaminated & cleaned up years ago. :eek:

Jahvon -- it don't worka data way -- somebody has to want the site for a development then you clean it -- I've never heard of a site being cleaned on spec
 
Looks like another years-long-Big-Dig-type project.

If the land is that badly damaged from chemicals & toxic stuff, then one would think that it should've be decontaminated & cleaned up years ago. :eek:

I'd guess it'll be more like the Spaulding Rehab Center project in Charlestown: lots of dirt to sort and move off-site to whatever dumping ground/silo accepts whichever chemicals are in that particular shovel-full of soil. Wynn's got the money to do it (and is legally bound to...so there's that).
 
Wynn's got the money to do it (and is legally bound to...so there's that).

I do agree with this. Wynn is financially prepared for the Site even knowing it's an EPA disaster site. So I do believe we will move forward faster than the other Stripmall development on Monsanto site.
 
Jahvon -- it don't worka data way -- somebody has to want the site for a development then you clean it -- I've never heard of a site being cleaned on spec

Monsanto should be paying for a cleanup. You dump it you clean it up.
 
Like the hundreds and thousands of so called superfund sites across the country? They're "supposed" to be cleaned.... whether being developed or not.
 
Boston mayor Marty Walsh is trying to halt the planning / building of the casino in Everett by filing a ridiculous lawsuit, claiming that Steve Wynn was awarded the design under unfair practices, and claiming that the casino is going to be built partly in Boston!

The mayor of Everett has rebuked this dispute by saying that Boston knew about all of the plans and proposals & is asking why all of a sudden is it trying to stop the casino, when they could've done that long time ago!

The casino was successfully voted on and it won fair & square. Wynn still plans to come to the vacant spot of land to hold a groundbreaking ceremony this summer. Everett Mayor Carlo DeMaria is not backing down! He says that the plan was unanimously voted on and won, which it did. :mad:
 
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Cool story, bro. Got a link? The closest thing to Everett on the Globe's site is Aaron Hernandez' new neck tattoo.
 
Mayor Walsh, Boston expand scope of gambling suit

By Andrea Estes GLOBE STAFF MAY 21, 2015


Mayor Martin J. Walsh Wednesday filed a greatly expanded version of Boston’s lawsuit against the Massachusetts Gaming Commission, alleging the agency repeatedly violated the state’s casino law and its own rules to make sure Steve Wynn was granted a permit to build a $1.75 billion casino in Everett.

And after the license was awarded last September, the suit alleges, the commission bent the rules several more times to make sure Wynn kept it even though his company had not met key conditions and deadlines.

“The commission’s award of the license was the product of a corrupt process to favor Wynn” and the commissioners’ action “has irreparably tainted the gaming licensing process,” the suit says. The city wants a judge to revoke the casino license and bar the commissioners from taking further actions involving the sole eastern Massachusetts casino license.

Commission spokeswoman Elaine Driscoll said the panel has not seen Boston’s new complaint, but adamantly defended the process that led to Wynn beating out a Mohegan Sun proposal in Revere for the lucrative license.

“The commission made each license award based solely on a meticulous, objective, and highly transparent evaluation of each gaming proposal,” Driscoll said. “We are confident that this complex licensing process was administered in a comprehensive and fair manner, although disappointing to interested parties seeking an alternative result.”

Had Mohegan Sun won the license, Boston would have received $18 million a year from the developer. The city was unable to reach a similar deal with Wynn.

The 158-page complaint, which includes more than 80 exhibits, is similar to the suit originally filed in January. But it provides new details about a series of 16 actions the gambling commission took, allegedly in violation of the law, to help Wynn.

It also contains several new allegations, including a charge that Wynn’s “representatives” knew that two criminals had owned the Everett land, but did virtually nothing to make sure they were no longer involved when they signed an option agreement with FBT Everett Realty, the owners of record, in December 2012.

Charles Lightbody, a convicted felon, and two of the principals of FBT Realty, are under state and federal indictment for allegedly covering up Lightbody’s continuing ownership interest until at least 2013.

The commission should have disqualified Wynn because of the involvement of criminals, the lawsuit says. The gambling commission has concluded that the state’s prohibition against felon involvement in a casino project would not apply to parties in a land deal.

Wynn Resorts spokesman Michael Weaver said the company investigated those people identified as landowners by FBT Everett Realty.

Later, after the gambling commission raised concerns that there could be secret owners, Wynn worked with the panel to amend its agreement with FBT to “clearly confirm ownership” and to reduce the purchase price from $75 to $35 million, Weaver said, to eliminate the possibilities that any secret owners could benefit from the casino project.

“All of these allegations are retread stories and are without merit,” said Weaver. “We are happy to be moving forward with our construction and site remediation planning. We had more than 800 people attend our construction job fair two weeks ago, so clearly there are many people interested in the revenue and job creation our project will bring to Everett.”

The suit also alleges that commission chairman Stephen Crosby was much closer to one of the Everett landowners than he has disclosed. Crosby acknowledged in the summer of 2013 that he had been in business with Lohnes in the 1980s, but said he rarely saw him.

But the two men had actually socialized at least 20 times since Lohnes bailed out Crosby’s failing company in the 1980s, the city alleges. In May 2012, soon after a Wynn abandoned plans for a casino in Foxborough, Lohnes hosted a dinner party for Crosby and his wife, the suit says.

The suit states that Crosby should have recused himself as soon as he learned in 2012 that Lohnes owned the land where Wynn wanted to build the casino. But he did not reveal the relationship until being questioned by State Police investigating the possibility of secret landowners, in August 2013.

Crosby did not withdraw from the debate over the land until December 2013; several months later he withdrew entirely from deliberations over the eastern Massachusetts license.

According to the suit, the commission has taken 16 actions that violated the state’s gambling rules since Wynn first filed its license application in January 2013.

The commission, led by Crosby, had vigorously endorsed a proposal requiring an applicant to be deemed suitable by the commission before it could sign an agreement with its host community and hold a local election. Wynn and the city of Everett, the suit alleges, wanted to reverse the sequence to increase pressure on the gambling commission by demonstrating that Everett voters embraced the plan.

After Wynn called Crosby, which city lawyers allege was a prohibited ex-parte communication, the chairman “in a complete about-face” asked the panel to reassess its position. His fellow commissioners objected at first but eventually yielded, the suit says.

“Chairman Crosby did Wynn’s bidding and swayed the commission,” the city’s lawyers wrote.

The day after the commission voted to change the rule, Wynn signed a host community agreement with Everett. Two months later, Everett voters overwhelmingly approved the casino plan. The election occurred six months before Wynn was deemed suitable by the gambling commission.

The city alleges the commission took several other actions to benefit Wynn, including choosing a different company to conduct a suitability investigation of his company after Wynn complained to Crosby about Spectrum Gaming.

Spectrum Gaming had been sharply critical of gambling activities in Macau, where Wynn has a casino. At the time, the complaint says, there were pending shareholder suits against Wynn and a US Securities and Exchange Commission investigation of a donation Wynn Macau made to the University of Macau Development Foundation.

In addition, the city lawyers allege, the commission let Wynn buy land from the T for its entrance more than 60 days after the license was issued, an alleged violation of state regulations. The sale also violated public bidding laws and a requirement for an environmental review, the suit states.

The gambling commission has said the 60 day rule applies only to the property where the casino will actually be built.

The Baker administration has held up the sale pending the environmental review and state Inspector General Glenn Cunha is looking into whether the $6 million MBTA land sale violated public bidding laws.

Wynn also was required by the gambling commission to file an application with the city of Boston for permits necessary to mitigate traffic problems in Charlestown, but has not done so, according to the suit.

The cities of Revere and Somerville have also filed suit to block construction of the Everett casino.

Andrea Estes can be reached at andrea.estes@globe.com.
 
^Thanks for alerting us to this article. maybe just pick out the salient points ? ? please don't post full articles, and please learn how to use the quote tags (the dialog bubble icon in the editor functions) to attribute other's works
 
I like Walsh's views on just about everything but I wish he's just leave this one alone.
 
I like Walsh's views on just about everything but I wish he's just leave this one alone.


Yeah, I helped put him in office by voting for him, and now he wants to do THIS?! I don't think that he can, because he's the mayor of Boston, not Everett!

Boy! Every time that we try to get something that's beneficial to us, along comes someone to throw a monkey wrench in the mix!

I just hope that this doesn't end up being plagued by any delays - much like the new World Trade Center in New York was when it was in the design stages! Walsh needs to just get over himself & stop this madness and let us have what we all voted for. :mad:
 
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I like Walsh's views on just about everything but I wish he's just leave this one alone.

It won't matter Walsh is trying to get a better deal for Boston. This is a done deal. Wynn will just sweeten the deal for Boston.

I think the only real issue is the entire contaminated land how long it will take. In the end it's all about the money. I could see Wynn looking for tax breaks for cleaning the land up.
 
It won't matter Walsh is trying to get a better deal for Boston. This is a done deal. Wynn will just sweeten the deal for Boston.

I think the only real issue is the entire contaminated land how long it will take. In the end it's all about the money. I could see Wynn looking for tax breaks for cleaning the land up.


Yeah, we almost had it in Eastie at Suffolk Downs, but that ridiculous church group had poisoned most peoples' minds into not voting for it! I was so pissed! Almost had it in our backyard! What right did they have to badmouth the plan & say all those negative things about it?

Yeah, it would appear that Walsh wants something more out of the deal that might help benefit Boston residents. But it is supposed to be built in Everett, not Boston. :mad:
 
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Religion often poisons minds, but the opposition was not solely coming from them. Trust me, if East Boston is considered your backyard, Everett is across the street.
 

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