Seaport Square (Formerly McCourt Seaport Parcels)

http://www.mpaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/MPAA-Theatrical-Market-Statistics-2013_032514-v2.pdf

Relevant demographics (starting on page 12 or so) on who comprises movie going audiences. Overall the trend is downward over the last 10 years, but you can see 12-17 is an outsized demographic relative to other age groups. I think the location still works since its mixed in with office buildings and apartments designed for young professionals, not families. Plus alcohol & food revenues should trump the ticket revenue. Why try to cater to a demographic that doesn't exist in the neighborhood?
 
I'm a little confused: What happens with the young adults who are 18-20? Do they need their parents with them? For Christ sake, they're adults!
 
bolehboleh said:
I'm a little confused: What happens with the young adults who are 18-20? Do they need their parents with them? For Christ sake, they're adults!
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Well since no one under 17 can get in the parent policy must be for those 18-20. Absolutely ridiculous.
 
coleslaw said:
Well since no one under 17 can get in the parent policy must be for those 18-20. Absolutely ridiculous.
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It's likely that no one under 17 can get in without a parent. If you're older you're good. It wasn't written/stated well in the article, but that's the policy that similar deluxe theaters have.
 
Honestly who cares...if you can't drink then you shouldn't be in the seaport anyway...without your parent.
 
I guess nobody read my post earlier today. This doesn't make sense and based on a similar theater they operate, this is probably a case of bad reporting or a spokesperson being unclear.
 
BussesAin'tTrains said:
It's likely that no one under 17 can get in without a parent. If you're older you're good. It wasn't written/stated well in the article, but that's the policy that similar deluxe theaters have.
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This was my confusion about it, but everyone seemed to read it the way that I did so I took it that they intended it that way. Guess not so good.
 
fattony said:
The Seaport isn't perfect, but how in the heck do you see the West End in those renderings?

And to the broader point - how do you expect anything new to "look like Boston"? Whatever is in Boston is what Boston looks like. Do you think the 19th century buildings that we treasure so much looked "like Boston" when they were built? They looked like every other building going up in every other American city at the time.

I'm not saying we got the pinnacle of great architecture in the Seaport - far from it. But I also don't think it is as sterile as you seem to. The Seaport already draws a crowd and it is still 2/3 empty. There is no way, shape or form that spells failure or West End.
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I am not a huge fan of most of the architecture of the Seaport, but there are parts of it that I enjoy, simply because of the total newness of it. I dont support fake retro museum pieces to mimic pseudo-old Boston and I don't expect the finest architecture for every single site, either. The rendering shows an extremely wide street with very banal-appearing streetwalls on both sides. For this city, I would hope for a little better than what I'm seeing. Granted, the rendering leaves out the details of what I understand will be a lot of street level retail - so it might luck out and at least on the sidewalk resemble the Fenway Boyston... at best. If it's all huge markets and movie theaters, this is going to be a pretty depressing strip to drive/bike/walk on. So I say again: we can always do better, and hopefully the rendering does not do the future justice.
 
FK4 said:
I am not a huge fan of most of the architecture of the Seaport, but there are parts of it that I enjoy, simply because of the total newness of it. I dont support fake retro museum pieces to mimic pseudo-old Boston and I don't expect the finest architecture for every single site, either. The rendering shows an extremely wide street with very banal-appearing streetwalls on both sides. For this city, I would hope for a little better than what I'm seeing. Granted, the rendering leaves out the details of what I understand will be a lot of street level retail - so it might luck out and at least on the sidewalk resemble the Fenway Boyston... at best. If it's all huge markets and movie theaters, this is going to be a pretty depressing strip to drive/bike/walk on. So I say again: we can always do better, and hopefully the rendering does not do the future justice.
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I dont know what renders you're looking at.

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How old is that render? There's a movie poster for Casino Royale (2006) in the theater!!
 
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We've got old-timey lamp posts! And possibly slightly better buildings (if they actually build to the renders).
They've got lots of busses (dedicated lanes) and room for bike lanes.
We've both got street parking and boxes with underground parking.
They've got ginormous intersections, slightly wider roads and sterile parks. We came up a little short here.
They've got two pointless median strips and we only have one.
I-90 beats I-66. But Red/Blue/Orange/Silver slightly beats Red/CR.
Out airport is slightly closer, but they don't have tolls. Gonna call that a tie.

So what's the chance the retail ends up as boring as theirs? (+90%).
For my money I'm going to call it a toss up. I'm calling it K Street on the Seaport.
 
dirtywater said:
I guess nobody read my post earlier today. This doesn't make sense and based on a similar theater they operate, this is probably a case of bad reporting or a spokesperson being unclear.
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I read it and hope that's the case. Poor wording or bad reporting. I did enjoy all the follow up. Particularly those that support the poor wording.
 
Even then I think it still looks good. The paneling is the perfect example of what's wrong with the Jacob Wirth tower. Whether or not you like the color, it's still got texture and to me that's important. The Jacob Wirth tower's panels look like they should be on a sidewalk.
 
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