The Hub on Causeway (née TD Garden Towers) | 80 Causeway Street | West End

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Ron Newman said:
Could have been a cool project except what happened to the train station and the Garden?
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Is it in the bottom right corner? where that little slip comes in and then widens under the low-rise buildings? I like it, I'm a fan of building on top of infrastructure, so I'm really pulling for the south station tower/bus station expansion as well as anything that puts a deck over the pike.
 
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Ron Newman said:
Could have been a cool project except what happened to the train station and the Garden?
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The train station is buried in that grandstand building. I'm not sure about the arena. Given the era, I wonder if it was going to be moved to SBW...
 
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Equilibria said:
The train station is buried in that grandstand building. I'm not sure about the arena. Given the era, I wonder if it was going to be moved to SBW...
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Drink?
 
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Can't get shovels in the ground fast enough!
 
Re: The Boston Garden (TD Garden Towers) | 80 Causeway Street | West End

WOOOOOOO.......

<wait for it>

HOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
 
Re: The Boston Garden (TD Garden Towers) | 80 Causeway Street | West End

OH yea! cant wait for all these recently approved towers to get under construction
 
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hockey92 said:
OH yea! cant wait for all these recently approved towers to get under construction
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Just to clarify (as you weren't part of the discussion on the previous page): the only tower that will be going up on this site right now is the short hotel tower, as it is the only tower of Phase 1.
 
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Yea unfortunately...but i get why they cant do it all at once right now with the amount of new "luxury" apartments being added in the next few years, but in general were going to be seeing some skyline changes in the next five years with this, the GC garage project, the filene's building, I think its 40 Trinity place? and I'm hoping that copley place tower gets built with all its curves and interesting street level that looks unique and a welcomed change for most buildings in Boston in my mind
 
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The whole "phases" thing scares me about new projects.
 
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JohnAKeith said:
The whole "phases" thing scares me about new projects.
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Why's that? Because it leaves the door open for a developer to bail on later phases?
 
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As others have said, even if the other towers fall through / get postponed for a while, the podium stands alone as a great project. It's not like this phased approach is leaving dirt or another parking lot.
 
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davem said:
As others have said, even if the other towers fall through / get postponed for a while, the podium stands alone as a great project. It's not like this phased approach is leaving dirt or another parking lot.
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Exactly
 
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tHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF THE PHASED PROJECT. wE'D ALL LOVE TO SEE THESE (turns off caps) massive projects all go at once. Problem is, we often end up with nothing, years of red tape, and eventually a shell of the proposal or still nothing. At least with phases there is a bit of a guarantee that we are getting (for the most part) what we see on paper. The design already includes the necessary infrastructure to support the future additions, so that helps with getting the next phases rolling. And, if they can use phase I to fund future phases. Good for them.

Also, reduces the risk of funding losses during construction as the construction phase is much shorter.
 
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Very exciting!
Glad to see they've recessed the retail podium from the street, it's needed with the number of pedestrians from the train station and the activity this development will generate, that is, retail, supermarket, offices, hotel and residences (a 1.9-million-square-foot project, whew!). At Millennium Place and the Mandarin Oriental, with their high street walls closer to the street, I feel like I'm being pushed on to the street.
Also, I like how Elkus Manfredi have the narrow sides of the towers facing Causeway St., inevitable, I suppose, thereby creating gaps between the buildings and making this big development less imposing to view from the front. I'm not aware if this is a change in orientation, but, I think that this provides some mitigation to the advisory group's complaint about excessive height.
I am apprehensive about the increase in traffic due to the daily comings and goings of more than one thousand people inhabiting this project.
I skimmed reading the PNF and didn't see LEED certification - the designers could capture a lot of rainfall from that canopy! I guess projects this size are too big for certification.
 
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SeamusMcFly said:
tHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF THE PHASED PROJECT. wE'D ALL LOVE TO SEE THESE (turns off caps) massive projects all go at once. Problem is, we often end up with nothing, years of red tape, and eventually a shell of the proposal or still nothing. At least with phases there is a bit of a guarantee that we are getting (for the most part) what we see on paper. The design already includes the necessary infrastructure to support the future additions, so that helps with getting the next phases rolling. And, if they can use phase I to fund future phases. Good for them.

Also, reduces the risk of funding losses during construction as the construction phase is much shorter.
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Sometime -- like a good wine the project needs to mature

I think most everyone would agree that both Pru nearly complete and Copley getting ready for a major update are much better that they aged and matured since the original proposals

In particular -- with phases there is often ground level room to do other things later without having to do too much of the stuff like truncating the Lord and Taylor's loading dock to accommodate the Exeter St. Tower
 
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EdMc said:
I skimmed reading the PNF and didn't see LEED certification - the designers could capture a lot of rainfall from that canopy! I guess projects this size are too big for certification.
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The development is LEED Platinum (!) according to this article on the BRA's site.
 
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I guess that rain water will be put to good use.
5,000 permanent jobs + 497 housing units (not all single occupancy) + 306 hotel rooms (not all single occupancy) = hello, traffic congestion! The price you pay for growth.
 
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