Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
I'm thrilled to see it go.
I'm thrilled to see it go.
The St Regis Residences (former Whiskey Priest site) | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
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Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
Who in their right mind waits to get into the Beer Garden?
Who in their right mind waits to get into the Beer Garden?
Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
21 (or younger) through 25 year olds...Stop by Whiskey on a weekend around 10pm and you'll see. There is a market for the $7 vodka sodas for this crowd over the $13 drinks at Legal roofdeck.
21 (or younger) through 25 year olds...Stop by Whiskey on a weekend around 10pm and you'll see. There is a market for the $7 vodka sodas for this crowd over the $13 drinks at Legal roofdeck.
Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
Seconded. Am not sad at all to see this place go. The sidewalk area in front of this place is also in awful condition.
Seconded. Am not sad at all to see this place go. The sidewalk area in front of this place is also in awful condition.
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It was one of the only divier places in the seaport. That is one thing the neighborhood really needs a shitty pub or two. Almost everything is upscale cocktails.
It was one of the only divier places in the seaport. That is one thing the neighborhood really needs a shitty pub or two. Almost everything is upscale cocktails.
Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
And Lucky's isn't far.
And Lucky's isn't far.
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Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
Agreed. You'd expect better service in the Leavenworth cafeteria.
Agreed. You'd expect better service in the Leavenworth cafeteria.
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Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
Marty is about to have 4 more years, during which time he'll likely oversee a significant remaking of many of Boston's neighborhoods. As Boston grows, the nimby's may get to be all the more outnumbered. People are gradually learning that you will oppose the good mayor at your peril. Take the case of Tito's housing record (exposed for the fraud that it is).
This project soon will break ground because Marty wants it.
It could be a reckoning.
Marty is about to have 4 more years, during which time he'll likely oversee a significant remaking of many of Boston's neighborhoods. As Boston grows, the nimby's may get to be all the more outnumbered. People are gradually learning that you will oppose the good mayor at your peril. Take the case of Tito's housing record (exposed for the fraud that it is).
This project soon will break ground because Marty wants it.
It could be a reckoning.
Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
The BDPA approved this a while ago. What's holding this up is the courts, not Marty. Don't know what the mayoral election has to do with this specific site.
The BDPA approved this a while ago. What's holding this up is the courts, not Marty. Don't know what the mayoral election has to do with this specific site.
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Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
This project enjoyed overwhelming support in the Neighborhood, City Council and Mayor's office to take it's place filling in an up and coming waterfront neighborhood. The plaintiffs liken it to War and Peace. After decades of underdevelopment, there is a more sensible, utilitarian approach underway. Use the current cycle +/- 115 Fed as your guide for how things will proceed under the leadership of an increasingly popular mayor.
There is very little taking place at this site that is litigious, less worthy of controversy. The utter nonsense, and nothing to see here grandstanding will play itself out soon, and the CLF told to go back and play in their sandbox.
This project enjoyed overwhelming support in the Neighborhood, City Council and Mayor's office to take it's place filling in an up and coming waterfront neighborhood. The plaintiffs liken it to War and Peace. After decades of underdevelopment, there is a more sensible, utilitarian approach underway. Use the current cycle +/- 115 Fed as your guide for how things will proceed under the leadership of an increasingly popular mayor.
There is very little taking place at this site that is litigious, less worthy of controversy. The utter nonsense, and nothing to see here grandstanding will play itself out soon, and the CLF told to go back and play in their sandbox.
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http://www.archboston.org/community/showthread.php?t=5397&page=2
http://www.archboston.org/community/showthread.php?t=5397&page=2
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sorry for the atrocious grammer. i chose poorly driving on PCH and posting at a couple of red lights. Also, not sure if we can separate the seaside parcelette from politics before it breaks ground.
sorry for the atrocious grammer. i chose poorly driving on PCH and posting at a couple of red lights. Also, not sure if we can separate the seaside parcelette from politics before it breaks ground.
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Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
Article on WCVB.com about the closing.
http://www.wcvb.com/article/seaport-restaurants-to-close-to-make-way-for-new-construction/13114453
Article on WCVB.com about the closing.
http://www.wcvb.com/article/seaport-restaurants-to-close-to-make-way-for-new-construction/13114453
Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
It looks like this project is moving right along:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/busines...rly-million/8k5RKS9ci3Y7SmoOMTToNO/story.html
Hopefully it will get past the frivolous CLF lawsuit and get in the ground soon!
It looks like this project is moving right along:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/busines...rly-million/8k5RKS9ci3Y7SmoOMTToNO/story.html
Hopefully it will get past the frivolous CLF lawsuit and get in the ground soon!
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Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
There was much debate on this forum last year about the original $55,000 price for that slice of land. Glad to see that it's been re-appraised up to $1,950,000.
Another sterling example of how many public agencies vastly underestimate the value of their real estate holdings. This isn't about regulation or permitting or taxation or anything like that; it's about the City understanding the value of an asset it owns, just as any private citizen or developer can own a plot of land.
If it weren't for the original Globe story, that $55k sale would have just flown through and nobody would have known anything about it.
There was much debate on this forum last year about the original $55,000 price for that slice of land. Glad to see that it's been re-appraised up to $1,950,000.
Another sterling example of how many public agencies vastly underestimate the value of their real estate holdings. This isn't about regulation or permitting or taxation or anything like that; it's about the City understanding the value of an asset it owns, just as any private citizen or developer can own a plot of land.
If it weren't for the original Globe story, that $55k sale would have just flown through and nobody would have known anything about it.
Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
The true value of that sidewalk is much closer to $55k than $2mil. If that sells as a separate investment to developer #2, what is their annual cash flow on that sidewalk to justify that valuation??? The truth is, there is almost nothing that developer #2 can do there without Cronin.
It ended up being a negotiating chip and $2mil won't even take a tenth of a bip off of Cronin's returns.
The true value of that sidewalk is much closer to $55k than $2mil. If that sells as a separate investment to developer #2, what is their annual cash flow on that sidewalk to justify that valuation??? The truth is, there is almost nothing that developer #2 can do there without Cronin.
It ended up being a negotiating chip and $2mil won't even take a tenth of a bip off of Cronin's returns.
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Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
The delays and lost tax revenue from the CLF's interference are costing Boston residents quite a bit more than the modest gain.... The damage already done.
The delays and lost tax revenue from the CLF's interference are costing Boston residents quite a bit more than the modest gain.... The damage already done.
Re: Whiskey Priest/Atlantic Beer Garden Redevelopment | 150 Seaport Blvd | Seaport
Yes the CLF accomplished so much! Great use of tax dollars. End of the day, the same tower is going up. They just incurred hundreds of thousands of legal fees and unnecessary delays.
Yes the CLF accomplished so much! Great use of tax dollars. End of the day, the same tower is going up. They just incurred hundreds of thousands of legal fees and unnecessary delays.