The Viridian (Fenway McDonald's) | 1282 Boylston Street | Fenway

There's still plenty of older buildings on Jersey, Kilmarnock, and Peterborough. Hell, even those buildings along Brookline, just west of the park, when you get down to it.
 
DominusNovus said:
There's still plenty of older buildings on Jersey, Kilmarnock, and Peterborough. Hell, even those buildings along Brookline, just west of the park, when you get down to it.
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True enough, but these businesses are in these particular buildings, have been for years, and likely derive some percentage of their stability and income from being there. Moving them is a little bit of an experiment. I've also got to imagine some of the dumpier buildings on Brookline are in line for redev too, which would be a loss for some of those stable established operations.
 
underground said:
True enough, but these businesses are in these particular buildings, have been for years, and likely derive some percentage of their stability and income from being there.
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Yeah... because Domino's, Rite Aid, Guitar Center, Tasty Burger, Burger King, CVS, Sleep-O-Rama, Shell, and Sunoco would be economically unstable or lose brand awareness god forbid they had to close their Boylston Street locations to make way for development that is of the highest and best use of the land...
 
dshoost88 said:
Yeah... because Domino's, Rite Aid, Guitar Center, Tasty Burger, Burger King, CVS, Sleep-O-Rama, Shell, and Sunoco would be economically unstable or lose brand awareness god forbid they had to close their Boylston Street locations to make way for development that is of the highest and best use of the land...
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I suspect that a lot of those places are franchises, so yes, their owners and employees are reliant on those particular locations...
 
I generally become a NIMBY when night-club spots are threatened, because I know that "The Man" is often gunning for them in Boston. I would worry that Machine wouldn't find a new home in Fenway (or somewhere else near the city center), and a popular, gay night-spot would evaporate.
 
^ you said it. When a bar, tavern or club closes in this city there is a good chance it or something similar is not coming back. I can't think of the last time a real bar opened in Boston. I'm not up on liquor licensing regs but it seems every new venue is really a bar/restaurant hybrid with significant food related business. When I travel back to the midwest, where I grew up, there are new bars aplenty. Out there I even see them on the fringes of suburbia hell as every new strip mall has a tavern attached. Whether that is a good or bad thing is a matter of debate, but Boston could definitely move in the direction of encouraging more adult like amenities and venues.
 
dshoost88 said:
Yeah... because Domino's, Rite Aid, Guitar Center, Tasty Burger, Burger King, CVS, Sleep-O-Rama, Shell, and Sunoco would be economically unstable or lose brand awareness god forbid they had to close their Boylston Street locations to make way for development that is of the highest and best use of the land...
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I'll say, highest use and best use are definitely not always the same thing. Pretty much been my bitch for the seaport and Kendall. Options for all walks of life. Wendy's and BK have done quite well and not destroyed Copley too much. They were actually quite busy even with all those upper middle class folks working next door.
 
commuter guy said:
^ you said it. When a bar, tavern or club closes in this city there is a good chance it or something similar is not coming back. I can't think of the last time a real bar opened in Boston. I'm not up on liquor licensing regs but it seems every new venue is really a bar/restaurant hybrid with significant food related business. When I travel back to the midwest, where I grew up, there are new bars aplenty. Out there I even see them on the fringes of suburbia hell as every new strip mall has a tavern attached. Whether that is a good or bad thing is a matter of debate, but Boston could definitely move in the direction of encouraging more adult like amenities and venues.
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Along with the late night T service (and I know there was an effort made by Walsh to keep some bars open later), I feel like these are the types of things that will attract young people to the city, so jobs and the economy can continue to grow. If I'm moving across country, after college, I'm looking for some place that has vibrant night life seen in addition to restaurants, arts/ culture, etc.
 
dshoost88 said:
Yeah... because Domino's, Rite Aid, Guitar Center, Tasty Burger, Burger King, CVS, Sleep-O-Rama, Shell, and Sunoco would be economically unstable or lose brand awareness god forbid they had to close their Boylston Street locations to make way for development that is of the highest and best use of the land...
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Others have already mentioned it, but I'm talking more about the Baseball Tavern's and Machine's of the world, AKA small longtime businesses operating successfully in industries that typically have razor thin margins and a high rate of failure. And no, I don't think kicking those businesses out to build a new complex that only Starbucks and Bank of American can afford to rent in would be the highest and best use of the land.
 
I noticed that most of the buildings that have gone up recently installed the cladding first then the windows. This building seems to be the opposite - all the windows are going in before any of the cladding. Is there a reason why they would be doing it differently?
 
I think they are using real, not New England Brickmaster, brick for the cladding. IIRC, the weather sealing between the window units and the masonry sucks if the masonry goes in before the windows.
 
FenwayResident said:
I noticed that most of the buildings that have gone up recently installed the cladding first then the windows. This building seems to be the opposite - all the windows are going in before any of the cladding. Is there a reason why they would be doing it differently?
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It's an effort to get the building weather-tight ASAP so they can start installing interior finishes. It's going to be a rain-screen facade that mimics terracotta. The grey is the air and water barrier so everything outboard of that is mostly decoration and to deflect the majority of the water away from the critical surface.
 
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Has nobody been in the Fenway for the last month? Why so few pics?? You guys are slacking!

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Glad the cladding is finally going on this. I feel like this project has been moving at a snail's pace since it topped out.
 
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Straighten those frikken windows out. That looks haggard.
Aside from that (and maybe the cladding will add some camo), I got no major beef with this thing.
 
SeamusMcFly said:
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Straighten those frikken windows out. That looks haggard.
Aside from that (and maybe the cladding will add some camo), I got no major beef with this thing.
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Huh? What crooked windows?
 
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