Winthrop Center | 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District

[bigpicture7]

Today (6/19) - Part I of II, park views:

 

[bigpicture7]

Today (6/19), Part II of II, recently opened mezzanine level

 

[vanshnookenraggen]

For all the complaints that it isn't what was advertised, it IS a very nice space. Just needs people.

 

[awood91]

Is the second floor bar open to the public?

 

[Justbuildit]

Yep, now called the Vermilion Club. There's a fair amount of seating tucked back into the wings.

The Vermilion Club | Bar & Lounge in Boston, MA

Restaurateur & Chef John Fraser made his mark on the culinary landscape by redefining the role of vegetables in American cuisine.

www.vermilion-club.com

 

[itchy]

For all the complaints that it isn't what was advertised, it IS a very nice space. Just needs people.

Agree, it's very nice. And high end without being suffocating or intimidating (IMO).

 

[HenryAlan]

I think it's a handsome tower with great glass and a nice addition to a much improved skyline.

Same. My only complaint regards the connector lobby, which I think could have been much better. The building, overall, though, is a nice addition.

 

[Johnnyrocket891]

For all the complaints that it isn't what was advertised, it IS a very nice space. Just needs people.

Looks pricey for the peasants

 

[Equilibria]

For all the complaints that it isn't what was advertised, it IS a very nice space. Just needs people.

I'm a little worried about that given the location. This sounds crazy to say, but if it were in the Seaport, it would be packed. The Financial District just isn't as big a draw...

 

[DBM]

Looks pricey for the peasants

Still Beantown Pub... and Hub Pub... and Sidebar... and Elephant & Castle... and JJ Foley's... and dozens of our very modest eateries and cafes in the immediate vicinity, to satisfy any fetishization of the working-class heroes out there...

 

[Suffolk 83]

Still Beantown Pub... and Hub Pub... and Sidebar... and Elephant & Castle... and JJ Foley's... and dozens of our very modest eateries and cafes in the immediate vicinity, to satisfy any fetishization of the working-class heroes out there...

I dont really understand smugly defending another upscale establishment opening the in the downtown area. The city is absolutely chock full of spendy bars and restaurants that deliver pretty low value for what you pay. And beyond that, alot of them dont last very long which means its a saturated market. In this space obviously its going to be a high end restaurant which is fine, I just disagree with the sentiment and delivery here

 

[DBM]

I dont really understand smugly defending another upscale establishment opening the in the downtown area. The city is absolutely chock full of spendy bars and restaurants that deliver pretty low value for what you pay. And beyond that, alot of them dont last very long which means its a saturated market. In this space obviously its going to be a high end restaurant which is fine, I just disagree with the sentiment and delivery here

I was doing nothing of the sort (and thus I'm genuinely sorry you misinterpreted me); I was merely pushing back against Johnnyrocket's post, which I feel was typically divisive, populist, class-baiting, Us Vs. Them rhetoric--more Howie Carr Lite.

 

[Bill Blass]

I get the sentiment though. There’s more than just a disinterest in nice places, there’s an active hostility to them.

 

[citydweller]

The recent pics by bigpicture7 are quite impressive. I imagine the locals will patronize the shops during business hours. I know I would if I worked around there.

 

[Johnnyrocket891]

The recent pics by bigpicture7 are quite impressive. I imagine the locals will patronize the shops during business hours. I know I would if I worked around there.

"The Locals" downtown Boston.
Who are the locals?
* International Investors that purchased 10 floors of condo units?
* BlackRock/Hedge Funds using the private Federal Reserve bank printing press funds to buy units (which is actually the American Taxpayers money) To rent out units to corporate/Political elite?
*Subsidized units which is paid by the American taxpayers for a life.
* Possible Migrant (illegal Alien) asylum's

Who is actually renting/buying these units?
Are they really locals?

 

[Justbuildit]

I live walking distance from there. I am none of the things you list. I know people who live in that building. They’re just run of the mill kinda rich people who cross shop back bay and seaport condos. Some of those are empty nesters who moved into the city after selling their suburban house and want the convenience of parking, amenities, and really nice stuff. Several pro athletes also live there.

It’s also a short walk from Leather District, Chinatown, the rest of the financial district, and on the intersection of two major T lines and near South Station. The first 35 floors of that building are also offices, so people from all over with all kinds of incomes work in that building.

I’m sorry that there are rich people who live in new construction high rises and that doesn’t make sense to you. Beacon Hill, Back Bay, South End, and Seaport are full of many more rich people from all over the world, unless they’ve become altruistic redistributive nativist enclaves when I wasn’t paying attention…

The idea that only locals get to buy homes in Boston (vs transplants who now live here or people buying a pied a terre) is either an expert troll on your part or one of the most brain dead takes I’ve heard. I’d love to hear your explicit policy goals in an appropriate housing thread. Anyways, next time you brave the city streets you should check out the hallway. It’s pretty nice!

 

[Johnnyrocket891]

Must be the PR Group for Millennium Partners-- or whatever trust or LLC owns this nonsense.

Can't hide from the truth anymore.

It's a nice addition to downtown Boston.

 

[Justbuildit]

Nope, just a normal person who enjoys urban living with no real estate affiliation whatsoever. I’m allergic to conspiratorial nativist nonsense though, so I’ll probably keep giving you a hard time as long as you use vague, coded, hollow scare quotes. Cheers!

EDIT: saw you updated your last post to suggest illegal aliens are living in the (checks notes) 60+ story luxury high rise on the tax payer dime. This is just bad trolling. Not taking the bait anymore!

 

[Suffolk 83]

I was doing nothing of the sort (and thus I'm genuinely sorry you misinterpreted me); I was merely pushing back against Johnnyrocket's post, which I feel was typically divisive, populist, class-baiting, Us Vs. Them rhetoric--more Howie Carr Lite.

The attitude towards that person I do understand, I have them on ignore

 

[citydweller]

"The Locals" downtown Boston.
Who are the locals?
* International Investors that purchased 10 floors of condo units?
* BlackRock/Hedge Funds using the private Federal Reserve bank printing press funds to buy units (which is actually the American Taxpayers money) To rent out units to corporate/Political elite?
*Subsidized units which is paid by the American taxpayers for a life.
* Possible Migrant (illegal Alien) asylum's

Who is actually renting/buying these units?
Are they really locals?

Any human capable of walking a few blocks would be considered "locals" to Winthrop Square / tower. I would consider both commuters who are working in the financial district or nearby residents.