30 Dalton St. Residences | Back Bay

It's peeking just above the trees from Boylston Street [taken last Friday]:
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Here's hoping that the garage will get replaced with something soon that blocks that side of the Hilton.
 
The Hilton and Westin were both built in the 80s. I wonder if it would make any economic sense for them to reskin. Both are interesting enough shapes, and surely they could rent the rooms for a higher price if they had larger windows to capitalize on the view. The Westin in particular is ripe for a rooftop restaurant / bar overlooking Copley Square.
 
davem said:
The Hilton and Westin were both built in the 80s. I wonder if it would make any economic sense for them to reskin. Both are interesting enough shapes, and surely they could rent the rooms for a higher price if they had larger windows to capitalize on the view. The Westin in particular is ripe for a rooftop restaurant / bar overlooking Copley Square.
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How about they both are imploded and replaced with something more modern looking? Wishful thinking....but that Hilton is hideous.
 
type001 said:
Here's hoping that the garage will get replaced with something soon that blocks that side of the Hilton.
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Here's hoping that the Hilton will get replaced with something soon that blocks that side of the garage.
 
You guys are funny! I remember when the Hilton was assembled (not really built...all prefab concrete sections) and knew then as it rose that it was going to hideous. Then they added the mirrored tower....helped a bit. But let's face it, that entire corner of Boston needs a huge update/improvement, including a nice tall building or two over the Mass Pike.
 
Heh, yes they added that glass corner to the Hilton circa 2000.

There was also a proposal around then to replace the garage with a tower (not sure if that was scaled back to just the glass corner, or if this plan was after the corner was already built).

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Thanks for info Mike, that's interesting, I dont think any of the board has seen that rendering. Wonder why they didnt add that cornice thing
 
Mike.V said:
(not sure if that was scaled back to just the glass corner, or if this plan was after the corner was already built)
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That rendering/proposal was available before the glass corner was installed. It was supposed to be the second phase of a two phase project. Late 90's? I still remember my disappointment.
 
This might be topped? I saw a flag on top of the core.







 
QUOTE: "This might be topped? I saw a flag on top of the core.:"

Topping out is last week in OCT., have 2 more floors plus roof slab to go.
 
For a city that can't renovate a subway station in less than two years or repair a bridge in less than four, this went up remarkably fast.
 
Tombstoner said:
For a city that can't renovate a subway station in less than two years or repair a bridge in less than four, this went up remarkably fast.
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Private projects are not subject to MA's insane public bidding laws (c149(a)).
 
Tombstoner said:
For a city that can't renovate a subway station in less than two years or repair a bridge in less than four, this went up remarkably fast.
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Renovations vs new construction. I'll complain about the speed and competence of state-managed infrastructure renovations as much as anyone else, but that's a really unfair comparison...
 
BussesAin'tTrains said:
Renovations vs new construction. I'll complain about the speed and competence of state-managed infrastructure renovations as much as anyone else, but that's a really unfair comparison...
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Busses -- that's funny -- I seem to recall a number of examples where the for-profit private sector seems to do renovations fairly rapidly and efficiently

No -- I think its all about the Big Gov -- Big Union -- Big Corruption Model
 
whighlander said:
Busses -- that's funny -- I seem to recall a number of examples where the for-profit private sector seems to do renovations fairly rapidly and efficiently

No -- I think its all about the Big Gov -- Big Union -- Big Corruption Model
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Whoa! Pull back on that terrier leash Westie!

I'm more inclined to unleash the hounds on the government contract procurement process, but everyone needs a drum to beat I guess... yours is unions and the ice age... fine by me...

On topic:

Obviously each renovation project is different, and each new construction is different. That said, a gut-job renovation of an historic structure, whether it's by efficient, capitalist captains of industry or government hacks, is going to take a long time. Compare this project, which is a new construction and is rising rather quickly, with the Godfrey project in DTX. A much smaller building, but a gut-job renovation that's taken 2 1/2 years.

Really though... comparing a 110 year old bridge rehab to historic standards, and an underground subway station gut job, with a pretty bread and butter mid-size tower project is comparing apples and oranges. Govt vs private sector aside.
 
walked around this one, another 10 floors wd have made a bigger impact. [URL=http://s301.photobucket.com/user/boston02124/media/arch%20bos%202015/Back%20
 
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