Logan Airport Flights and Airlines Discussion

I'm not following-I see this is being called a connector, but since summer 2011 it has been possible to walk between all gates in Terminal C (except for a small handful-former FL gates now used by B6). You just have to walk past the consolidated security checkpoint.

LH -- there are two connections that do not currently exist in the secure [aka "sterile zone"] which are being constructed over the next year +:

1) So-called North Connector -- between C-10/C-11 and Terminal E around Gate E-1E -- this is the key to the whole project as it allows deplaning Jet Blue customers to go directly to International departures in Terminal E. There is a potential further benefit for any passengers pre-cleared by customs overseas to transfer directly to Jet Blue for domestic destinations
2) So-called South Connector -- between the current post-security lobby in the vicinity of Gate C-25 and the so-called Pier D where Gates C-40, 41, 42 are located -- this is mostly really to convert terminal C to all Jet Blue all the time and allow for more selling of food and trinkets to Jet Blue deplaning passengers

Also since Terminal C will essentially be Jet Blue with a small amount of Cape Air will be further reconstruction of retail and food in the main pre-secuity C hall and the soon to be integrated Secure C zone -- in essence, more on the secure side and perhaps slightly less on the pre-security side
 
Arlington --not at all surprising:

2) again as opposed to BOS-NYC where Acela is just on the cusp-time-wise -- there is just too much of a time differential between flying and taking the train

I do not think its the time differential- There is a price-sensitive market, which is most likely leisure, that will opt for the train if much cheaper.
 
LH -- there are two connections that do not currently exist in the secure [aka "sterile zone"] which are being constructed over the next year +:

1) So-called North Connector -- between C-10/C-11 and Terminal E around Gate E-1E -- this is the key to the whole project as it allows deplaning Jet Blue customers to go directly to International departures in Terminal E. There is a potential further benefit for any passengers pre-cleared by customs overseas to transfer directly to Jet Blue for domestic destinations
2) So-called South Connector -- between the current post-security lobby in the vicinity of Gate C-25 and the so-called Pier D where Gates C-40, 41, 42 are located -- this is mostly really to convert terminal C to all Jet Blue all the time and allow for more selling of food and trinkets to Jet Blue deplaning passengers

Also since Terminal C will essentially be Jet Blue with a small amount of Cape Air will be further reconstruction of retail and food in the main pre-secuity C hall and the soon to be integrated Secure C zone -- in essence, more on the secure side and perhaps slightly less on the pre-security side

Thanks-I knew the C<=>E connector was being built but thanks for the clarification.
 
I know the focus here is BOS but for anyone interested, looks like EK is adding ORD in August:

DUBAI, U.A.E., 24th February 2014 Emirates, a global connector of people, places and economies today announced that it is launching a daily service to Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport, Terminal 5 from 5th August 2014. The service will be operated by a Boeing 777-200LR powered by GE90 engines.

Chicago will become the airline’s ninth gateway in the USA, following soon after the commencement of its services to Boston, Massachusetts on 10th March this year.

Speaking about the new route, Tim Clark, President, Emirates Airline said “Chicago has long been a destination in the United States which Emirates has wished to serve. Like Dubai, Chicago is a major global trade and transportation hub with great cultural diversity that is an economic engine for its region. We welcome the chance to establish a non-stop trade bridge between these two great cities and, via our Dubai hub, to more efficiently link Chicago area passengers and shippers with our international network beyond Dubai to over 140 destinations spanning six continents. This is good news for trade and tourism for both cities, and jobs that rely on both, as well as for consumers who will benefit from greater competitive choice.”
“Chicago welcomes Emirates, one of the world’s largest international airlines, to our city,” said Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel. “Air transport links are critical for trade and tourism, and Emirates’ non-stop daily flights to Dubai will only add to our global connectivity and further our goal to host 55 million visitors by 2020, in turn generating jobs not only at the airport but across Chicago’s travel and hospitality industries.”


http://www.emirates.com/us/english/about/news/news_detail.aspx?article=1566874&offset=0
 
Not surprising they added Chicago. Over on Airliners.net, when Emirates was going to start Chicago and Miami has been much talked about over the last couple of years.
 
Since we talk about all things Logan here... somehow every parking lot and garage at Logan is full right now. Logan officials are directing people to park at Suffolk Downs and running shuttle buses!

http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/n...ational-airport-parking-is.html?ana=e_bost_bn

Data -- its probably part of the Anti-Suffolk Casino Vote Schema -- they want the people in the neighborhood to see a lot of cars on the day the vote is being held [not this is not a serious comment -- at least I think] -- :=}
 
It's a good deal for the flights to DCA. Unless booking inside of a week, one could do better to Dulles and Baltimore buying individual trips though. Neither market commands much of a premium.

DCA flights are pretty cheap when booking out too. There are one-ways under $100 on either US or JetBlue. IAD walkups were not far off from DCA walkups this week. BWI is a different story: far less. This must be targeted for last minute business traffic.

I wonder if they would have tried a package using DTW and ORD or added PHL CLT and RDU to the DC area package.
 
Since we talk about all things Logan here... somehow every parking lot and garage at Logan is full right now. Logan officials are directing people to park at Suffolk Downs and running shuttle buses!

http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/n...ational-airport-parking-is.html?ana=e_bost_bn

It is crazy! They crammed cars everywhere humanly possible. They need to either raise rates or add a couple floors to the economy garage. Also they could probably build another garage on the lot adjacent to the gas station.
 
It is crazy! They crammed cars everywhere humanly possible. They need to either raise rates or add a couple floors to the economy garage. Also they could probably build another garage on the lot adjacent to the gas station.

A nice market solution would be to somehow ping you a day before your flight with expected rates (dynamic) and availablity, and with transit alternatives.

I wonder which compass point could use a Logan Express, and I still think there needs to be better transit from NS/Haymarket (a free SilverLIne "tag"
 
It is crazy! They crammed cars everywhere humanly possible. They need to either raise rates or add a couple floors to the economy garage. Also they could probably build another garage on the lot adjacent to the gas station.

Palindrome -- in the Doing Business with Massport Capital Projects there is a RFP down the road for 1800 car garage -- my guess is probably another economy garage on / near to the former car rental lots or the existing Harborside Garage
 
WSJ article about Logan's good fortunes of late.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303801304579407040681748388

Boston's Charm Offensive for Direct Flights Overseas
How Logan Airport Attracted Connections to Tokyo, Beijing, Istanbul, Dubai and Panama City



Boston - If there's one U.S. airport punching above its weight right now, it's Boston's Logan International.

Logan has landed five new international airlines over the past two years, a remarkable number considering the airport isn't a hub for a big airline with alliance partners. Boston has nonstop flights to Tokyo and Panama City. Flights to Dubai are scheduled to begin in March, followed by Istanbul in May and Beijing in June.

Winning new international service is highly lucrative for cities. Businesses and tourists follow, and local travelers can cut five or six hours off long trips by avoiding connections. Cities try to win over airlines with millions of dollars in incentives and lobbying by politicians and CEOs. The battles are global, since airlines can send new planes in any direction: Munich may vie with Seoul, Boston, Mexico City, Montreal, Chicago and Philadelphia for a new flight.

"It's wicked competitive," said Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, who once served on the United Airlines board and has taken to actively recruiting new airlines to Logan. "There are lots of governors and cities out covering the same ground. I'm not the first one who's shown up," he said in an interview.

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New airplanes from Boeing and Airbus are changing the international travel landscape. The much-delayed and problem-plagued Boeing 787 has started to hit its stride, with more than 115 now in airline service world-wide. The 787 is the first smaller widebody jet to have very long range and low operating costs, letting airlines fly nonstop in markets that could fill a 200-seat jet but not a 350-passenger plane.

Some foreign airlines have taken a new approach: joining with local low-fare airlines to feed them passengers rather than teaming with big global competitors. JetBlue Airways, for example, has grown to be Boston's biggest airline in terms of daily flights. JetBlue now offers connecting itineraries for carriers like Japan Airlines and Dubai-based Emirates Group. JetBlue does the same with 28 foreign airlines at its home at New York's Kennedy International.

Plus, a plethora of "open-skies" treaties between countries has eliminated many restrictions on who can fly where, fueling the route competition. This comes as the number of international flights by U.S. and foreign airlines has increased 5.1% over the past three years, according to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. The number of passengers aboard international flights has jumped 12.1%. Meanwhile, the number of U.S. domestic flights has declined 4.4%.

Miami International Airport and JFK will both have taken in five new international airlines in the 12 months ending this June. Chicago O'Hare, Dallas-Fort Worth, Washington-Dulles and Newark Liberty have all seen major international gains over the past three years as well.

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Courtships between airports and airlines can go on for many years. Yil Surehan, director of airline route development for the Massachusetts Port Authority, which operates Logan, spent seven years trying to entice Japan Airlines before Tokyo flights started. Wooing Emirates was a six-year effort. And those are the successes. "You hear the word 'no' in many, many languages," Mr. Surehan said.

DFW will spend $40 million in airline incentives for new service to China, Australia and the Persian Gulf over a five-year period ending in 2016—the most of any U.S. airport, said airport CEO Sean Donohue. That includes waiving landing fees for new entrants for two years and funding major advertising campaigns for airlines.

Money for incentives comes from airport concessions like parking, food and real estate development on airport land. DFW also has the advantage of some natural gas production wells on its property.

Boston has spent only about 10% of what DFW has on incentives, according to Thomas Glynn, Massport CEO. By pitching the large university and hospital communities plus high-tech industry and New England tourism, Logan has been able to dramatically expand international service without offering huge incentives or a big hub.

Massport, like other airport authorities, blitzes airlines with market data showing travel patterns and projected profit-and-loss statements for direct flights. In addition, Massport has task forces of local business CEOs court airline executives as future buyers of high-dollar business-class tickets. Once committed, the airport gives airline sales teams lists of New England companies likely to be good customers for a particular route.

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Boston boasts short wait times at Customs and Border Protection checkpoints. And the governor, of interest to foreign airlines in part because of his friendship with President Obama, "adds to our allure," said Mr. Glynn. "He's one of the things that's leveled the playing field."

Boston also tries to pitch two airlines on the same destination at the same time, raising the pressure. A "first mover" in a market typically gets more traffic and customer loyalty.

So while talking to Japan Airlines about Tokyo, Massport was also pushing Delta Air Lines for service to Tokyo. JAL bit first, launching nonstop flights with a 787 in 2012.

JAL said in a statement that the "Boston-Tokyo route has been meeting performance targets, but there is still room for improvement, particularly during certain seasonal periods."

JAL's move prompted China's Hainan Airlines to make Boston its second U.S. city after Seattle, also with a 787. The airplane has the range to make it to Boston nonstop from Beijing. Unlike larger planes, it can take off from Boston's 10,000-foot-long runways with a full load.

Hainan's chairman had particular interest in Boston because he had spoken at Harvard University and the airline had been the subject of a Harvard Business School case study, said Joel Chusid, Hainan's executive director U.S.A. Boston's large Chinese student population and the governor's involvement helped close the deal, he added.

Mr. Chusid says he gets blitzed by airports at industry conferences. At a major event in Las Vegas, where airlines and airports engage in brief "speed-dating" meetings, tables emptied at the end of a day but Hainan still had a line of airport executives, some offering cheap fuel costs, no landing fees and other incentives.

"Everybody's courting," Mr. Chusid said.

Emirates begins flying to Boston from Dubai March 10 and JetBlue will begin flights the same day between Boston and Detroit, which has a large Arab population and no direct Dubai flight. Existing Emirates flights to New York have "a fair amount of JetBlue passengers" on board, said Adnan Kazim, Emirates' divisional senior vice president for planning and research. With JetBlue's large operation at Logan, Emirates expects Boston flights to perform well, too.

Scott Sample, who works for a financial services firm in Dubai, hopes Emirates is right. He flies home to Concord, Mass., often—three times since November. Nonstop flights will slash at least five or six hours off the trip, he said. He also hopes more friends will visit since the trip to Dubai will be easier.

His biggest concern is whether nonstop flights will be more expensive than the $1,200 to $1,500 he usually pays for flights through London on British Airways and American.

"It'd be definitely worth it to spend $300 more," he said.

He may be surprised. Emirates is currently offering nonstop Boston round-trip tickets as low as $1,191 round-trip.


Write to Scott McCartney at middleseat@wsj.com
 
$100 million renovation for Terminal E. No mention of 'west concourse' - appears limited to concessions, self-service kiosks and the C-E connector.

http://www.boston.com/business/2014...al-terminal/brFadHkdtfAsFkmT2qCwTO/story.html

a tenth of a billion dollars seems like a lot of money for upgraded concessions, some self service kiosks and a post security connection. Seems like more than double what it should cost. I guess a hundred million doesn't get you much these days.
 
a tenth of a billion dollars seems like a lot of money for upgraded concessions, some self service kiosks and a post security connection. Seems like more than double what it should cost. I guess a hundred million doesn't get you much these days.

Airports are complicated and inflated by the security-clearance process and the space constraints (no good place to stage stuff). I'd guess it is $50m for the connector and $50m for everything else.

"Tenth of a Billion" LOL...we have names for the orders of magnitude so you can just call it 100 million.
 
a tenth of a billion dollars seems like a lot of money for upgraded concessions, some self service kiosks and a post security connection. Seems like more than double what it should cost. I guess a hundred million doesn't get you much these days.

BosDev -- the 2X number is right on target as the only reference on Massport is to the following:
L1255 Construction Term. C&E and Gate 40 Connectors 6/5/2014 $45,000,000.00

Assuming that upgraded concessions, some self service kiosks and hold rooms is about $5M

the total comes to $50M

There must be something more that so far no media has asked about -- perhaps there is pavement work in the vicinity of the Terminal to allow for more and heavier planes parking?

Note: when the Capital Budget was approved by Massport's BOD there was the following note

The capital program has another 150 projects, including ones such as a cogeneration facility at Logan, development of the west concourse of Terminal E, a glycol treatment facility for Logan, and improvements to the old Coastal Oil site so Conley could expand to the west, that do not have funding available at this time

More details on the as-of-then unfunded West Concourse as part of the Fy13-17 Capital Budget
LOGAN AIRPORT Proposed FY13-17 Capital Program - Unfunded
Logan Landside CONTINGENT ON FUNDING SOURCE

MPANO PROJECT FUND As of FY12 FY13
L0338 TERMINAL E WEST CONCOURSE CFS $0 $0

FY14 FY15 FY16 FY17 FY13-17 FY18+ Total Cost

$0 $17,293 $20,129 $20,129 $57,551 $92,449 $150,000

So perhapss some of the work mentioned by Patrick is the beginning of FY15's $17M
 
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I hope Terminal E could be made more cutting-edge looking (i.e., lose the formica and empty-boxiness feel) but I doubt much of the $100M can be put towards that. I think in the world of international air travel, looks matter. It's the first impression of the US many people get.
 

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